acquiescence to republicans saying this is the only way out of the national emergency. i said cold and dark. cold and dark plis, maace. ma matt miller joins me. we know, most people know this shutdown was stupid. they were ready to pass a bill and send it to his desk right before the end of the year that would have solved this entire problem, funded the government going forward. there s another way out for them. they can pass legislation in the senate the house democrats are passing, override the president s veto and move on but they re acquiescing to him in this kind of political death wish he has for nothing other than party loyalty. it is, i think, every bit as dangerous as john makes it out to be. the party loyalty, the party is dead, it s trump loyalty. when we come back, is he the human guardrail of the mueller investigation. today a deeply concerning breaking news about rod rosenstein s future. plus, if it looks like collusion and talks like collusion and acts like collusi
edge working to preserve the integrity of the investigations into russian collusion by the special counsel and those out of the southern district of new york over the nearly daily complaints and harassment from this president. his departure was feared in september. the new york times reported he offered to wear a wire to record the president and discuss rallying support among the president s cabinet for invoking the 25th amendment. joining us now, the former director of counterintelligence and jeremy bash, matt miller and everyone at the table are still here. let me start with you, frank, your thoughts. i don t like it, nicolle. i tried and tried again to go through the options why rod would be announcing it this way. we ve all heard the options. he feels he s very confident about this case being almost wrapped up. i don t buy that because the case what case is wrapped up? the kaz that s going to have to be filed in a report that s going to go to who?
just how close robert mueller might be to proving collusion. the new york times has learned more about what paul manafort s lawyers accidently disclosed in improperly redacted court documents. oh, i hate it when that happens. what paul manafort shared with putin s agents and when he shared it, quote, both mr. manafort and rick gates, the deputy campaign manager, transferred polling data to a russia operative in the spring of 16 as mr. trump clinched the presidential nomination. that s according to a person knowledgeable about the situation. this is important. most of the data was public but some of the it was developed by a private polling firm working for the campaign, according to the person. joining us now from the new york times, political reporter ken vogel, who s byline is on that story and from the newly launched site the bulwark. ken, let me start with you, you were here at this hour yesterday. what have we learned since then?
oh, it s unfortunately gotten far too political. i mean, look, the things we are trying to tell the american people are things the american people deserve to know. and as have you said, we have had leaks and unmasking from the very beginning. everything is told through a partisan lens. it s very, very unfortunate. look, if you think at this late point that hope hicks is the key to proving collusion between president trump and his campaign and the russians, i mean, you are just living in a fantasy land. that just simply is terribly unlikely. she has been down answering our questions. she is very, very bright. she has been a good witness. and we hope we can conclude this i think sometime and just tell the american people what we know and go back to doing other important work. harris: congressman stuart, i don t want to put words in your mouth. i will use the words that the president used witch-hunt. yeah. well, i can understand why he would say that once again, for more than a year