energy winner and most consequence shl was at that time the loser and he was not happy about it. the only problem with microsoft is they just have no taste. they have absolutely no taste and what that means is i don t mean that in a small way, i mean in a big way. in the sense that they they don t think of original ideas and they don t bring much culture into their product. and you say, well, why is that important? well, proportionally spaced fonts come from typesetting and beautiful books, that s where one gets the idea. if it weren t for the mac, they would never have that in their products. and so i guess i am saddened not by microsoft s success, i have no problem with their success, they ve earned their success for the most part.