about a series of meetings manafort had with the russian political consultant with ties to russian intelligence. those meeting ing began when manafort was trump s campaign manager in 2016 and continued through 2018, the second year of the trump presidency. during those conversations, prosecutors say manafort and kilimnik repeatedly communicated about a so-called peace plan for ukraine starting in early august 2016. why manafort was misleading them, misleading the properties c prosecutors, why that was so important he said this goes to the larger view of what we think is going on and what we think the motive here is. this goes, i think, very much to the heart of what the special counsel s office is investigating. and joining us now, glen