mariupol, but that broad evacuation arranged by the united nations red cross, part of broader discussions between capitals moscow, kyiv as well, is, i think, fair to say under way at this point. there is a little uncertainty as to exactly its progress si stage, there s suggestions from officials that the buses haven t yet reached the rallying point yet but also other suggestions, too, it is en route. there are two different phases to this, there is the azovstal steel plant, those hundreds of civilians and it seems also, too, hundreds of wounded ukrainian soldiers caught under that enormous sprawling factory and also slowly coming out, you saw those dramatic images of the first dozens emerging to sunlight for the first time, and then also the broader evacuation in which hundreds, thousands, certainly tens of thousands of civilians still in mariupol will make their way out. now, there s potential here for them to go through manusk and