everyone on the ukrainian side of the table was exhausted as they had been up all night working on these reforms. on september 11th, president trump discussed the matter with vice president pence, senator portman, and acting chief of staff mulvaney. according to tim morrison s testimony, they discussed whether ukraine s progress on anticorruption reform was enough to justify releasing the security assistance. morrison testified that vice president pence was obviously armed with the conversation he had with president zelensky and they convinced the president that the aid should be disbursed immediately. the president then lifted the hold. in concluding this point, we have considerable evidence that president trump was skeptical of ukraine due to its corruption. we have evidence the president was skeptical of foreign assistance in general and he believed strongly our allies should share the burden for regional defense. we know the white house was reviewing foreign assistance in general t