he very much defended those programs in 2016. and that proved to be a very important thing that he did, because it increased his support among white working class voters. in fact, steve bannon, people would read about him in 2017, he wanted trump to make a play economically for bernie voters by proposing a tax increase on the wealthy. so trump understands that his voters, his working class voters, very much like these entitlement programs. they don t like paul ryan, they don t like the idea of cutting them. they don t like the republican donor s interest seeing those programs cut. they re very much at odds with that. so he understands his base better than a lot of republican leadership proposing these changes. yeah, you re really excavating the fact that while there might be a wall street pact or donor pact, trump, who understands programming,
programs cut, period. no programs cut. no cuts on anything of the $3.5 trillion? no cuts of programs, but we are willing to say, if we have to cut years on some of the programs to make this work, then okay. there may be some areas that instead of being a ten-year investment can be five years or seven years or eight years. we re willing to do that. but don t cut our programs. how do you tell that person working nin the child care center, no, not you, you wait. you wait until whenever. we don t know when this will come around, but we want the money to be there to pay for the folks that are fixing our roads and bridges. do we need that? absolutely. we want that investment for them. we also need our investments in housing. we also need investments in our schools. we also need those investments in climate action. we need the clean electricity. and the majority of the american people are with us. the majority of democrats are with us. there are just a few who are holding it up. it s no
and there are no jobs that coincide with the school schedule. they re not giving me a two-week vacation come spring break. exactly. so those are band-aids. we appreciate and we celebrate the band-aids because as you know the united states lags far behind other developed countries in terms of the amount of leave it gives families. it s very true what we need are public policies that allow for affordable child care for working families across the board. we also need businesses, we need organizations that really care about performance over the amount of time that you re putting in and create flexible work arrangements that allow people to be able to be corporate citizens but also to take care of their families. are we looking at school schedules in the wrong way? because we re looking at programs cut. some say well, we re not seeing positive results with kids who have after school programs or we don t need to offer breakfast before school starts. a lot of those things aren t just to b
magnitude, the federal reserve would welcome that. but it would be challenging to achieve numbers like that. it s not impossible. the economy is a dynamic thing when people start to feel good about it as many do right now, you start to see the stock market go up, people who were not engaged in the workforce trying to get back into the workforce, businesses making investments. it all comes back to demand. we are a demand driven economy. factories build and expand. ali, this is hard cuts and on the other side a lot of hope. that s right. and the one thing you do want to point out, remember, when you re kicking up the deficit this much, you stand to see loads of programs cut. the greatest chance we have for kids to have economic and social mobility is through education. we talk about the number of people who may be eligible to get certain credits, and they don t know how to file their
argument for a fundamental tax reform that does go from 35% to 25% while also focusing on the individual side, on some of those demand-side tax cuts. they don t do that on the individual side. they don t pay for it. you could do a revenue neutral corporate tax reform plan, better for growth, better for individuals. that s not what this is. but what about not just the blue states you were talking about. there s a lot of people in red states that care about the budget. they care about programs that they are dependent on. and if we jack up our deficit, we re going to have programs cut. doesn t that matter to people in those red states? well, we used to have in this country one of the competitions between the parties is you had republicans were viewed as the party of fiscal responsibility, of course, critical of democrats who they viewed as this. the reality is, this is true of the bush administration, it s true of the obama administration and it s true now. we have two big spending pa