genocide, slavery, and exploitation, were worth it. joining me now is the f4 mention doctor. professor of african american studies, at princeton university. she is the author of the new york times bestseller, south to america, and journey below the mason-dixon, to understand soul of a nation. jelani cobb, also joins me. he is a staff writer for the msnbc political contributor, director of the center for journalism, for civil and human rights. at columbia university. thank you to both of, you i m very disappointed as i look at the, clock this feels like a 3 to 4-hour conversation, but we will do it, in short order. professor perry, let me start with you. this is a basic understanding that americans don t have. there is this wildly successful country, that led the world in everything. because, we did not pay for labor. we continue to struggle to this
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one party than another party. what winds up happening is that we round things up or we round them down to equivalence. when you start to talk about things that are truly hostile to democracy in the same tones as you talk about things that are day to day occurrences in a normal functioning democracy. what you do is lull the public into a false sense of complacency. one thing that is really crucial to jonathan s point, we need an accord. we need some sort of document that press organizations can sign on to in terms of how we will approach covering fascism in the united states. we need more than anything else to be able to get on the same page about how we are go be to deal with this looming crisis in front of us. professor cobb, you are invited to do the first draft of
treatment to the authoritarians. too many journalists are caught in a mindless neutrality between democracy and its saboteurs, between fact and fiction. it s time to take a stand. and joining us now, jelani cobb, staff writer for the new yorker, . also with us, jonathan alter, columnist for the daily beast. professor cobb, in 2021, what adjustments should the political media be making in their approach to the coverage? there are a lot. i mean there are a lot of things that we learned or should have learned, rather, from what we saw unfold from really 2015 to present. but we ve been slow to see those things actually translate into how coverage has changed. the first is that it is
professor jelani cobb, jonathan alter, thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. thanks, lawrence. thank you. coming up, the testimony you must hear. unfortunately, it is testimony that the supreme court did not hear. that s next. yes, show a little kindness just shine your light for everyone to see and if you try a little kindness super emma just about sleeps in her cape. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to tide hygienic clean free. it s gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old free detergent. tide hygienic clean free. hypoallergenic and safe for sensitive skin.
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