country objects and says well that s a very sensitive location. i ve got military activities there that have nothing to do with nuclear weapons that i don t want you to come see. if the country can convince the iaea without offering access if there s some other way to convince them that their concerns are unjustified, then they can do that. but if they are unable to convince the iaea then they still have a right to go. and there s a provision in the agreement for the whole group, including iran but also including the six countries they were negotiating with to essentially vote on whether the inspector will be able to go and that means iran won t be able to block because even with countries like russia or china voting with them they wouldn t have the majority of that group. phyllis bennis your reaction to the deal. i think the technical points that professor bunn was just
is any deal that would remove sanctions from iran is going to make iran a worse actor and not a better actor. is the deal going to make possible a change in iran towards what we would call a more normal and status quo country? i suspect the answer is in the short run, no. it s probably going to get worse and obama is going to have trouble with the deal. but reasonably in the long run this could produce political changes inside iran that might make iran a more normal actor in the region. we re going to take a break and come back with more. professor bunn thank you. appreciate it. thank you. coming up who actually knows donald trump? will join us tonight to try to explain the presidential candidacy of donald trump.
stockpile of enriched uranium will also help because it will mean since it will give them a head start of enriching bomb material that s about two-thirds of the work already done, then a covert site, without that material, would have to be almost three times as big or take almost three times as long making it easier to detect. well overall, this deal gives us quite a lot on hemming in iran s nuclear program. professor, we re getting close to a you were getting close to a very specific response and effect to a major republican talking point today about being able to see check things anywhere, anytime. in fact, donald trump has mastered that talking point. let s listen to his version of it. anytime, anywhere we should be able to go anytime, anywhere. we should be able to go in and inspect. if you don t have that, you have nothing. professor, we have that on the known sites but what the
also joining us is james traub and harvard professor matthew bunn who developed a secret study for president clinton on the study of nuclear materials in russia. professor bunn, first to you, in your reading of this deal, what is your ultimate assessment of it? i do think it s an important breakthrough that will reduce the spread of nuclear weapons around the world and, in particular, in iran. it s actually a bit better than i would have expected would have been possible, given the hostility and the stiff neck of the iranian regime. you have provisions designed to cut off or at least hem in each pathway iran may take on the bomb. on the uranium enrichment, they are cutting back two-thirds of their centrifuges and the stock
essentially vote on whether the inspector will be able to go and that means iran won t be able to block because even with countries like russia or china voting with them, they wouldn t have the majority of that group. phyllis bennis, your reaction to the deal. i think the technical points that professor bunn was just talking about is important but the broader, most important aspect is that this deal, this agreement is a huge victory of diplomacy over war. it gives us clear evidence that diplomacy works. and that s really important in an era when we re hearing constantly there is no military solution, whether it s to isis or the crisis in syria, libya and iraq and yet the only strategy we see being opposed tends to be a military strategy. so this is a very important example of why the point that is made is true, there is no military solution and there is, in fact, a negotiated diplomatic