york. good to see you, congressman. good morning. good morning. so the clock is ticking. we re ten days from a possible government shutdown. what are the chances, as you see it right now, that that happens? look, the speaker has to step up. clearly the speaker is allowing 30 to 60 individuals to hold this whole process hostage. he needs to step to the plate and put a reasonable bill on the floor that we worked on. that s something that he knows, he absolutely knows will not pass. so that s the kind of political gamesmanship that we re playing right now, where the republican party and those in the tea party particularly are holding up the creation of jobs and moving this economy forward for american people. and it s almost ridiculous in my opinion because we re going to vote on a bill today that they know will be going nowhere laden with poison pills and all kinds of bad, bad news for the american people.
one point. they ended up delivering 24. if you add aed the 16 cru, if you would have gotten 40, it would not have been enough for this bill to pass. my favorite from this the spokesman for eric cantor said this proved the democrats can t govern. sure. i think it was actually, yeah, i mean, look, the thing that happened here was if you look at the bipartisanship that happened on the senate side on the farm bill, right, which was, they actually really did come together and forge a bipartisan bill and they got it out and it got the vote. what happened here was, you really had the radical right of the party holding the rest of the process hostage. and, so, it really a was about this kind of ideological polarization we ve been talking about around something like whether people who are low-income, struggling to feed their families get some help and eating at the end of the month. we re talking about it, the senate bill, the food stamps were much smaller in the senate
is kind of holding the whole process hostage to use a word from last term? i m not sure it s a passionate small minority. i mean, it s the majority of the party. it s a core principle for the gop. it s one of the really one of the few core principles in kind of the post-cold war and post social issues kind of part of politics right now that brings them all together. it s very important for them to not have high taxes. what we re seeing right now is sort of, i think, and it s been a conjecture, but the orthodoxy on taxes which is very well enforced and policed by groups that, as you say, will primary republicans. the kind of core on that is it s hitting up against the fact that the tax hikes we re talking about for the wealthy are not really enormous. we ve had them before. they weren t disastrous. even their own, like, intellectual elite and their own donors and many business leaders, although not all, are telling them, guys, it s okay. we ll take 2% or 3% more. it s fine. it s alm
it is time to do this because the moral authority of cutting is the right thing to do. neil: it sounds like tonight you will be a no vote on this compromise. guest: why want to say ahead time because i have not seen if they will make some cuts hike we said we would do but it should not be lost with regard to the democrats, you have 95 democrats vote for a spending level in july and august and now they voting, 89 of the 95 and individual, we made that deal in july and august but we are not even going along with that and they switched their vote and demand more money to be spent is it seems like with met of the democrats no matter how were you agree to you can country on them coming back in two months saying it is not enough and new we want more and more and more. neil: people say those who are against added responding are the ones holding this process
and the fact is that the president never came forward with a plan. now, i was gratified to hear that he had plans. but there was never a specific plan. there was always the, so-called leading from behind. look, we could have reached an agreement a lot earlier, but the members of the house of representatives had a mandate. had a mandate last november. it was jobs in the economy and spending. for them to then agree to tax increases and spending increases was obviously a repudiation of the mandate that they felt they had from last november. right. senator, you talked about again, the president has not led. you talked about the tea party. you had some critical words. you talked about a russian house of representatives passed a budget being foolish. there were republicans and democrats saying tea party conservatives were digging in and some used the word hostage. holding the whole process hostage because they would not