look until then it was what won t we do, what limited things can we do that might pro vood. it feels now as though we are actually trying to put ourselves in ukraine s shoes, figure out what do they need to successfully push the russians out. what can we give them and if we don t have it, what can others give them and how can we keep supplying them on a sustained basis? because this is not just once and done. we re going to have to keep helping the ukrainians over time. i think what he s doing there is great a that is a significant part of a real strategy. there s more we need to be asking ourselves what we with do. what can we do to help ukraine get to the fighters in mariupol? can we give relief to these.