creates a vigilante system where people get rewards to go out and anyway. and it just seems i know this sounds ridiculous almost unamerican. howie: given his long-time pro choice stance, why does the press seem to want to talk more about it than the president. you look at the news over the past week or corks it s a barrage of bad headlines from hurricane ida to the afghan drawdown to the weak jobs report late this week, you would think the president would pivot and jump onto this with great offense to try to fire up his base but he was rather subdued about it and you look at the wave of headlines that have kind of been difficult for this administration, one would have thought they would have gone full-force with this to animate their base. howie: biden made a point of saying he respects those who disagree with roe v wade. the controversial thing is that
withdrawal. discussion about the sacrifices that were made by the military over a 20-year forever period. so all of that is going on and then of course the 13 americans who sacrificed their lives in the course of the withdrawal drew tremendous attention on left and right. in my opinion, we have had an ongoing discussion here about the consequences of all of the president s actions. howie: well, until now, we ll get to that in the next second. we don t know how donald trump would have handled the execution of the withdrawal if he were still in office but a lot of conservative media people didn t criticize trump for making the deal with the taliban, releasing taliban prisoners and just say everything involved with this is joe biden s false. i thought it was interesting that the president reemerged in a big way on the media sides of things, giving several interviews about what he would
her lives, our service people who put their lives on the line. it s a difficult task. i don t think you could have said it could be done easily or with some precision that would have prevented any problems. i just think it was a catastrophic situation, once the government and the military on the afghan side collapsed so rapidly. howie: there were a lot of predictions nobody thought it would happen in 11 days but there were a lot of predictions that the government and military would collapse quickly, is a lot of self dilution going on or perhaps misleading of the public. 60% in the same poll disapproved of biden s handling of afghanistan as opposed to more that three quarters who liked the decision. one thing that s unspinable by the media and that is the biden administration did leave, despite its promises, at least a couple hundred americans behind and tens of thousands of afghan allies who risked their lives to help us during the war. i mean, this is completely unspinable by the
think they got caught. do i therefore blame the american media or the president or the american military? at some point, you say they got out 100 plus thousand people. that s an incredible success, howie. howie: they had to do it in a hurry. there s a lot of questions about several administrations and this travesty of a 20-year war p. i think the woman we just heard from, she is an important part of the picture as well. my heart went out to her and her family. i know you would agree with that. let me make a quick last point. i want to say f she was family, i would be in crisis over getting her out. howie: exactly. that s not to say that she and other americans and afghan allies couldn t have made an earlier effort. they have some responsibility. howie: she tried to get to the airport by her account and was shot at by the taliban. much of the press, including veterans who i respect, who covered wars, jennifer griffin, richard engle, clarissa ward,
states mill he tri and our diplomats and military and our diplomats and intelligence professionals. howie: howie: extraordinary success, that phrase brought the president plenty of criticism. the pentagon did good work in evacuating americans and afghan alleys. allilies. we haven t heard anybody say they did anything wrong. it was donald trump who signed the withdrawal agreement, also an attempt by pro biden pundits to conflate the decision to leave afghanistan with the awful execution that the whole world has witnessed. this broader debate is so important that it s our job to lift it above petty part sonship. i m howard kurtz and this is media buzz.