by anything. the people are just on persuadable, and that they are in their echo channels. the january six committee has disproven. they have disproven that. this poll was taken after the primetime hearings in the summer that had 31% of independents view the insurrection as more serious than they had thought. there was a whole raft of polling that showed this. it just seems to me that there is a kind of foreign content thing happening. if you believe in democracy, you have to believe your fellow says citizens are persuadable, and if you are going to defend it you have to do the work of try to just say here s evidence and facts and arguments about why this was bad. to me, that s what s been rewarding for doing this podcast about historical precedent in this. to me, i know it sounds like a bummer, but it s oddly comforting to know that, hey sedition happens. there is a recurrence of traction in this country, fact
and it s an accountability for the people propagated. that and it s also the enterprise they ve done in public communications. because i think one of the limitations of our era it s just to think that no one, no one s mind is gonna be changed by anything. the people are just on persuadable, and that they are in their echo channels. the january six committee has disproven. they have disproven that. this poll was taken after the primetime hearings in the summer that had 31% of independents view the insurrection as more serious than they had thought. there was a whole raft of polling that showed this. it just seems to me that there is a kind of foreign content thing happening. if you believe in democracy, you have to believe your fellow says citizens are persuadable,
changes, or administrative changes. we are also working on that. january six committee is busy gathering testimony from trump cabinet officials, ahead of more primetime hearings set to resume in the coming weeks. tuesday the committee interviewed robert o brien, trump s former national security adviser, about cabinet discussions on whether to invoke the 25th amendment to remove donald trump from office. committee chair bennie thompson says investigators have spoken to, quote, pretty much every single person in the cabinet. for the most part they have all indicated a willingness to talk to the committee. joining me now is congressman madeleine dean. vice chair of the judiciary and financial committees. and former house impeachment manager. welcome, congresswoman. before we get into the january 6th discussion, what is your reaction to what we are learning about the documents that we recovered from mar-a-lago? good morning michael. it s a real privilege to be on with you so thank you
primetime hearings. it has not been anything else. we had real, die hard trump supporters on thursday night. right? so, why is it, though, that it seems that the 16 committee maybe beating its drum in the echo chamber that is not being heard where it needs to be heard? you know, i don t know. i think, the thing is, they do these primetime hearings which is very smart. the first hearing did really good numbers. and so, i do think more people are hearing it than we think they are. i also think it is having more offehayou think. and, even with the josh hawley video, the point of that video was he was scared for his life. he ran, not because of an ideological thing, he ran because he thought the mob would get him. i think that that is the most important part of this. here is a guy who a couple of hours before was like, these guys are my buddies. and a couple hours later he is running because he does not want to get killed. i think that is a really
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