we talk to simon clark, a cabinet minister under borisjohnson and liz truss. thank you forjoining us. the small boats crisis and the five pillars of rishi sunak s, in terms of what he s going to do is of course inflation, does not look like he will be able to keep this pledge. i think this is an extremely frustrating day for everybody who like me frustrating day for everybody who like me wants to see the government deliver like me wants to see the government deliver on like me wants to see the government deliver on what is rightly its commitment to stop the small boats crossings commitment to stop the small boats crossings and let s not forget over 45.000 crossings and let s not forget over 45,000 thousand people came across the channel that we last year and these the channel that we last year and these numbers are unsustainable. it s these numbers are unsustainable. it s really these numbers are unsustainable. it s really important we get the policy it s really important we