have. suggested, well, it s a secure building. certainly there, he shouldn t worry about whether or not he s going to be saved. is it about whether or not there is there are safety concerns or is it about the threat per se? first the crime. if we re talking about the criminal code. the president is exempt from prosecuti prosecution. but if you re just looking at the statute, speaks to what the person who s trying to intimidate the witness does. not really how it impacts the target of their intimidation. doesn t matter as much whether in this case michael cohen actually feels a real threat as to what the person trying to keep him from testifying is trying to do. rudy giuliani should be indicted or criminally investigated for threaten ago witness. in relation to michael cohen s father-in-law. let s play that sound.
thank for being with us. remember to follow the show online, on twitter. @mitchellreports. chris jansing is in new york. chris. andrea mitchell, breaking a lot of news today. i m chris jansing. ali velshi and stephanie ruhle are on assignment. it s thursday, january 24th. let s get smarter. michael cohen is now subpoenaed by the committee to testify. your client under tremendous pressure here. he says that he is afraid to testify because of the president s threats. because of rudy giuliani and what he said on tv. first of all, will he appear before the senate? he has to comply with subpoenas and we have to have some reasonable conversations. mr. giuliani can be indicted and criminally investigated for doing what he just did, that is prima fascia a crime to threaten
federal workers have to go to food banks. within last couple of hours saying the shutdown is a glitch. i think the comments underscore the extent to which not only is there a legislative plan, there s no messaging plan. the president thought that simply talking over and over about the scariness of illegal ill grants. talking about crime would be enough to somehow win this battle. he s i think missed the other part of the communications, picture which is empathy. we know he has struggled to communicate in a wide variety of situations. when both he and his aides are saying this is not much, we ll get through this. i think that s political problems for him. we re going to keep watching. daniel, eli, thanks. a growing number of organizations are warning this shutdown could be catastrophic. five former dhs secretaries including john kelly are urging the president and congress to fund the government. writing in a letter, quote,
cohen by voting a resolution of censure that you can criticize mr. cohen but don t attack a man s family and intimidate a witness before congress. joining us now, former u.s. attorney joyce vance. obviously, we ll leave the censure for the political analysts and what might happen over there. his basic argument is a plan was committed here, witness t tampering has occurred. witness intimidation is a crime where it s important to consider all the circumstances of the prosecution. it s hard for someone who s not prosecuting a case to make a precise call. but the facts here are the kind of facts that would cause any prosecutor to want to engage in some investigation because the core of witness intimidation involves either trying to correctly persuade or intimidate a witness into not testifying or even just delaying the testimony. it hooks like that s what we d
breaking news, president trump s former personal lawyer cohen will honor a subpoena to testify before the senate intelligence committee. now a source tells nbc news the testimony will be on february 12. just yesterday of course cohen postponed his testimony before the house oversight committee, he says, due to ongoing threats against him and his family, from trump and his legal team. cohen s legal adviser spoke to msnbc s andrea mitchell, arguing the president s conduct makes him guilty of a crime. once again, he ducks or lies about what he s known he s done, attacking a father-in-law and a wife, to get to mr. cohen. that is called obstruction of justice. the house of representatives and senate need to move to protect