the ukrain phone call? it was just dramaatized but it was real. when the presidents does it is a lie and you know what you would say? jimmy, you wouldn t call the president a liar. go ahead. i mean listen. what we have right now is again and i ve said this before a prim primau prima facie case. if it s excanical puatory evidence it would be from those working on behalf of this call including ambassador who was ready to testify today. in other words he has the opportunity to present exculpatory evidence if he has