victims. congressman matt gaetz sparked controversy when he claimed a border wall would help prevent gun crimes. i hope we do not forget the pain and anguish and sense of loss felt by those all over the country who have been the victims of violence at the hands of illegal aliens. hr-8 would not have stopped many of the circumstances i raised, but a wall, a barrier on the southern border may have and that s what we are fighting for. after that exchange gaetz asked that the fathers be removed. jerry nadler allowed them to stay. lauren fox joins me now from capitol hill. tell us what you saw there and how this played out. reporter: it was a really emotional hearing on gun violence. of course what you saw there,