baseless and we re watching to defend our client. we wish the press wouldn t cover them when they re baseless. thanks. also with us, jonathan turley, constitutional law attorney and a fox news contributor. professor, great to have you. i want to pick up where mark left off there. what do you make of this back and forth? seems like the irs special agents have been willing to lay everything on the table. they re like look, here it is. here s what we have. take what do with it what you must. the other side is saying, well, we re not really ready to release that. what do you make of this back and forth? well, first of all, these whistle-blowers are a real profile of courage. they have decided to take on the entire d.c. establishment, including media. and it s an unequal battle. this letter is really rather
grady, thanks so much. ainsley: completely defeats the purpose, right? you can walk right around that little section. steve: let s bring in wisconsin senator ron johnson member of the senate homeland security committee. senator, good morning to you. ainsley: good morning. good morning, guys. steve: hey, what did you make of kamala harris trip to her photo op. last week in el paso? she was criticized by republicans for not being at the right spot. you say you were actually where she should have gone. they took her to a point in the where she wouldn t see the crisis so the press wouldn t report on the crisis. of course, that s what s been going on. brian, you are exactly right. i offered an amendment to force the administration to actually build the 250 miles of wall bought and paid for $2 billion. every democrat except joe manchin voted against that amendment. again, what they have gotten good at. they have gotten very efficient at processing and dispersing illegal immigrants acr
it is much easier, by the way, to act presidential than what we re doing here tonight. believe me. and i said, with the exception of the late, great abraham lincoln, i can be more presidential than any president that has ever held this office. that i can tell you. i ve never heard of lincoln referred to as the late great. that s usually for sportscasters. then the president raised the prospect that his face might one day be added to mt. rushmore but said the press wouldn t understand that he was just joking. was he serious? here s what i would do. i would ask whether or not you think i will someday be on mt. rushmore. no. here s the problem. if i did it, joking, totally
the last sound bites are great that he s trying to unite them. jesse: you think it might unite the country because people don t like the media that much? i think him fighting back ways we never saw in a leader before, any leader. and the fact is when the other side has things to say, they don t have any facts either. necessity just throw stuff out there for their base. and that s what i like. i don t want them get away with it. let me decide. i don t want your opinion reporting on him to be the news. jesse: do you think there are personal issues at stake when the press goes negative? it s all personal. i think he gives them ammunition. if he did not go ballistic as he does and go off the rails as he does, the media and the press wouldn t have these opportunities to fact check him. do you agree with that?
the last sound bites are great that he s trying to unite them. jesse: you think it might unite the country because people don t like the media that much? i think him fighting back ways we never saw in a leader before, any leader. and the fact is when the other side has things to say, they don t have any facts either. necessity just throw stuff out there for their base. and that s what i like. i don t want them get away with it. let me decide. i don t want your opinion reporting on him to be the news. jesse: do you think there are personal issues at stake when the press goes negative? it s all personal. i think he gives them ammunition. if he did not go ballistic as he does and go off the rails as he does, the media and the press wouldn t have these opportunities to fact check him. do you agree with that?