jr. we learned shortly after that that the president himself had played a guiding role in crafting those explanations, those misleading explanations about the meeting with the russian lawyer in trump tower. in this case we also knew that there was at the very least confusion about this. the morning after michael flynn left the white house we had kellyanne conway come out and say he had resigned voluntarily. it was only that afternoon, a day later after michael flynn had left the white house, that michael that sean spicer rather said the things you played in the video, that it was actually something that the president requested. i think what we re learning as we learn more about these episodes is that it s not just about chaos in the white house. it s not about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, or about these press aides not necessarily talking to the president in advance of their explanations. it s actually about the president taking a keen interest in explainin
the morning after michael flynn left the white house, we had kellyanne conway come out and say that he had resigned voluntarily. it was only that afternoon, a day later after michael flynn had left the white house, that sean spicer said the things you played in the video, that it was actually something that the president requested. i think what we re learning as we learn more about these episodes is that it s not just about chaos in the white house. it s not about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, or about these press aides wanting to talk to these people, explaining these things in oftentimes misleading ways. i think that goes through james mattis firing. the president said he fired me and mattis resigned. we also saw it around the comey firing, where the white house blows anything out of proportion. on this broadcast, any meeting in your family office that you have to have a russian translator present for should maybe set off alarm bells. anyway, shannon an
i was standing outside sean spicer s office with a group of other reporters for hours trying to get an answer on what was going on. because that evening we all saw flynn go into the oval office, and we saw flynn come out of the oval office, and we were trying to figure out if that was it, if that was the moment he was fired. when i think back to that moment, i just think a massive amount of confusion going on in the white house in trying to get this simple answer had the national security adviser just been fired. no one seems to know, and i remember people coming in and out of sean s office that night, other lawyers, other press aides, other staffers trying to put together a statement. that s just my little window into this level of confusion just that one night that was going on around this flynn firing. there were days of that. as we know from sally yates testimony about going to don mccann and mcgahn trying to figure out what the situation was.
sarah sanders and her press aides are not the most credible people either. this is an awkward situation where nobody involved has a reputation for being honest and telling the truth. you think about omarosa, let s go the apprentice. her brand has always been about being a liar, a back stabber. she was famously fired three times on various episodes of the apprentice. all of those issue, all the issues about her credibility, come back to the fact that president trump still hired her. the washington post has described her as the highest ranking black employee at the white house. she was making $190,000. that s a big amount for a government job. so the president brought her in. had meetings with her in the oval office. and now she is betraying him in a stunning way. she does have tapes. i ve confirmed from a source she has tapes from her conversations with trump. apparently there s no bombshells on the tapes but she s using those tapes as leverage as the white house tries to tear her
investigate. they take time for the public to absorb and i m sure part of the thinking of the investigation counsel was to help educate the american people about what he s doing. and this is the kind of document that certainly is going to do that. let me ask you quickly as we wrap up, what was your reaction to rod rosenstein, deputy attorney general, going out there by himself to talk about this and make the announcement? well, it s interesting they made the announcement through the justice department. the special counsel in the past, say archibald cox and leon jaworski during watergate, who were parallel, special counsel appointed by the department of justice, they had their own press aides and made their own announcements. there is a press aide at the mueller s office. but they decided to pass this to the deputy attorney swren, who is the overseer of the investigation and have him at