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politically. richard, i have it s sort of airs of the cia saying, let s get rid of that guy, he s not doing what we say, and putting in the shah of return. we were shocked that the mullahs took it back. ayman mohyeldin has done some great reporting and interviewed lots of people. it s not as if the president who the west supported had popular support. so it feels like the failures go far beyond just ripping our military out of there in 2003 and going to iraq. it seems like it was much more systemic. yes, i agree. these were not unknown unknowns as donald rumsfeld said, who got us in there. these are known knowns. i remember being in kabul in 2013 and going to the presidential palace. diplomats saying to me that president karzai wasn t president of afghanistan. he was president of kabul.

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