i m sorry, minister, butjust, just saying that they ve got a court order doesn t really address the question of why on earth the intelligence agency would be using the most potent spywa re to secretly surveil a leading financial journalist. that was the first revelation. but then it turned out the leader, the man who is now the leader of the pasok opposition, and, according to one newspaper investigation, a whole list of other politicians, including senior members of your own government. why on earth would that kind of secret covert surveillance be happening? i think you re confusing different stories here. first of all, the government doesn t use spyware. the government, when they need to tap somebody, they do it through the telephone networks with a court order. so the use of spyware is not something that this government does. but we know that spyware was used. forgive me, but we do know that. the financial journalists that i mentioned found out quite specifically and explicitly that
spyware was used. forgive me, but we do know that. the financial journalists that i mentioned found out quite specifically and explicitly that his phone was infected with this predator spyware. absolutely. and we have very vocally said that the government has no relationship whatsoever with the use or ownership of any spyware. you know, spywares are not the prerogative of governments or of the greek government, for that matter, for which reason somebody would have access to this kind of software and would like to listen illegally because under greek law, it s illegal to wiretap anyone through the use of spyware remains to be seen. and that s the subject of a judicial review. what surprised us, and i don t want to bring too much domestic politics into bbc hardtalk is that it was a serious felony illegal wiretapping. the previous left wing government made it a misdemeanourjust before the elections, and we had to change the law again and make it a felony. and now it s again a felony i
to tap somebody, they do it through the telephone networks with a court order. so the use of spyware is not something that this government does. but we know that spyware was used. forgive me, but we do know that. the financial journalists that i mentioned found out quite specifically and explicitly that his phone was infected with this predator spyware. absolutely. and we have very vocally said that the government has no relationship whatsoever with the use or ownership of any spyware. you know, spywares are not the prerogative of governments or of the greek government, for that matter, for which reason somebody would have access to this kind of software and would like to listen illegally because under greek law, it s illegal to wiretap anyone through the use of spyware remains to be seen. and that s the subject of a judicial review. what surprised us, and i don t want to bring too much domestic politics into bbc hardtalk is that it was a serious felony illegal wiretapping. the pre
that his phone was infected with this predator spyware. absolutely. and we have very vocally said that the government has no relationship whatsoever with the use or ownership of any spyware. you know, spywares are not the prerogative of governments or of the greek government, for that matter, for which reason somebody would have access to this kind of software and would like to listen illegally because under greek law, it s illegal to wiretap anyone through the use of spyware remains to be seen. and that s the subject of a judicial review. what surprised us, and i don t want to bring too much domestic politics into bbc hardtalk is that it was a serious felony illegal wiretapping. the previous left wing government made it a misdemeanourjust before the elections, and we had to change the law again and make it a felony. and now it s again a felony in greece to use any spyware software to listen to an individual. it is only the prosecuting authorities through a court judgment, through