confident in american exceptionalism is the biggest problem of all. i want to get you in the conversation whether or not you think that s right? next month i finish my 20th year in the military. when i first signed up it was 25 years ago and a motivator for me, pre-9/11, is that i believed we lived in the greatest country in the history of the world. i look at people from generations before us who laid down their life in defense of freedom and liberty. i wanted to challenge myself to wear the same shoes our world war ii veterans war in storming the beaches of normandy. fast forward to 2023 and if you are trying to recruit a 17 and 18 to serve and defend our country and willing to lay down their life you have to make sure that the military is about that mission of keeping america safe, secure, and free. as soon as you inject other
of those mob indictments was overturned. what is one step deeper? that s interesting. let s talk further about mayor giuliani, the mayor of city hall, also crowned the we another quick look at the documentary. here is a clip. you ve lost any ability to control the people that come into the united states. that s the reagan administration s opinion on immigration policy as expressed by a associate attorney general, rudy giuliani. he says reagan s policy of detention and interdiction of haitian refugees has been a deterrence to new arrivals. any one of them can easily leave and go back to haiti. i think he has possessed with the anger of the exiled. i think his family ran away from black people from brooklyn. compare that with the giuliani we know today as donald trump s lawyer and a big member of his inner circle. pre-9/11, rudy giuliani
laden was killed before zawahiri was tapped. important for our viewers to understand, president biden made a number of misleading statements last night about zawahiri s role as a deeply involved in the planning of 9/11 and the uss kohl attacks there is very little evidence of that. zawahiri was a very bad guy, but no need to gild this particular lilly. zawahiri played a marriginal ro in the pre- 9/11 al qaeda. you can read the 9/11 commission report, he really wasn t involved in the planning of 9/11. that was bin laden and others. so zawahiri tnever carried out n attack on the united states or american interests in the decade he ran it. he presided over the split between al qaeda and isis, which, you know, is really a terrible thing for al qaeda because isis became the most effective terrorist group in the world. if bin laden had been around,
respect for her. the kind of foreign minister doesn t have that much respect for women secretaries of state but this one certainly did. even though they disagreed on the wars in yugoslavia. but she knew how to represent american interest but also to show that women, there was nothing that men could do that women couldn t do. yeah. and then we look at russia, which as i mentioned is for both of you, but in the pre-9/11 era, the state department and the secretary of state dealt a lot with mideast and the pursuit of that peace process, especially under clinton and russia and how do you constrain russia in a potential world, here is some of what she also wrote in that piece i mentioned about putin. quote, like other authoritarians he equates his well being with that the nation. opposition with treason. because he believes that the u.s. dominates his own region by
time, including rudy giuliani. take a look. did we sufficiently learn our lessons? and did we sufficiently, you know, button up the chatter that we were focusing on pre-9/11 that we got better on focusing on after 9/11 because it was the same type of chatter we were getting out of libya, right? absolutely right. i worry on the 12th anniversary. not that certain people have forgotten, look, people move on, death is a horrible thing to deal with, the trauma of it is horrible, but people deal with it in different ways, some point they move on, if they don t they learn to live with it. the part of forgetting september 11th that s bad, forgetting what caused september 11th, forgetting the fact that we ve let our guard down before september 11th. neil: rudy giuliani, america s mayor, as they used to call him, but a point he mentioned is a point i ve heard echoed in the 20-plus years i ve covered this story from the attacks