we saw what has happened when we watched salman rushdie, fatwa on him, danish cartoons. we ve seen many controversies. it seems that these lady gaga, ricky gervais, people i don t care about any way, they make these comments, i grant you probably to be provocative. why is there a double standard if they attack other religions? there is a huge target on christians, because there are a billion of us in this world. sean: why a double standard? it is not a double standard. [ talking over each other ] jennifer, that s not what i m talking about. what is the underlying basis? we are a huge target. it is all about listen lady gaga she is a christian girl, she went to catholic school her entire life. [ talking over each other ]
line. they are out of place. nobody is looking to him for that type of leadership. what he s doing is trying to [ talking over each other ] it is about dollars, about being a lightning rod, causing controversy, selling records, getting in the limelight. it is all about dollars. it has nothing to do with christianity. that doesn t make it right. listen, i m a practicing christian, i m not being a moralist. i m being a business approach. these are two celebrities who say i m going to be a lightning rod, because i m going to sell more records. next year i want to host the academy awards. it has nothing to do with the pass with the passivity of christians sean: hold on one at a time. mercedes, is there a double standard?
we saw what has happened when we watched salman rushdie, fatwa on him, danish cartoons. we ve seen many controversies. it seems that these lady gaga, ricky gervais, people i don t care about any way, they make these comments, i grant you probably to be provocative. why is there a double standard if they attack other religions? there is a huge target on christians, because there are a billion of us in this world. sean: why a double standard? it is not a double standard. [ talking over each other ] jennifer, that s not what i m talking about. what is the underlying basis? we are a huge target. it is all about listen lady gaga she is a christian girl, she went to catholic school her entire life. [ talking over each other ]
we hear so much about separation of church and state now. what did the founding fathers say about religion in society? well, i looked at virtually all the state, 13 state constitutions. they were all overwhelmingly christian. most of them were even protestant and some of them even required legislators to take some sort of oath of office that recognized jesus christ in their life. washington was not a diest but a practicing christian. they believed the church was essential to good government. very interesting. he s come up with a way to fix our greatest problems by looking back to our founding fathers. the book is what would the founders say ? very interesting conversation. thanks for your time today. thank you, gretchen. coming up, death threats against congressman peter king. some coming from overseas. but the congressman says he s not worried. michelle bachmann s critics have
come jon, may i make one last point? jon: go ahead. may i make one last point on christmas eve, on christmas eve, as practicing christian, to my fellow christian brethren, have christ in your heart and mind and flagpole issue leave to the courts. jon: rebecca nikkin got it there. thank you both. not being christian i still say happy holidays to everybody. jon: merry christmas to you. thanks. thank you. thank you. jenna: let s get to shopping now, huh? it is time. jon: shopping? jenna: could today be black friday number two? stores are getting creative in the final hours of the holiday shopping season. why today could be a perfect retail storm. speaking of storms though, massive system causing a lot of trouble as it heads across the country. harris is keeping an eye on that. harris? reporter: oddly one of the places they look to have a white christmas or snow shortly after christmas is