whatever is being released. i look forward to seeing the report. we ve wasted tens of millions of dollars and two years. there was no collusion. there was no collusion. if it s an honest report, it will say that. we feel good about the fact that what we ve said all along for the last two years will be clear. we ll be ready. joining me now is former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade. the administration seems very confident there is going to be no collusion. that may be in part because collusion is not a legal term from a criminal perspective. it would be more accusation and charges of conspiracy. i mean, that s one thing. from a pr spin, the president can say i was not found guilty of collusion. that s not something he was going to be even charged with. what should they be concerned with from this report. they have no idea what might be in it. it could be anything from a clean bill of health to i think the ultimate bad conclusion for president trump
the curve in terms of learning this. they probably already know how deep into up until the time they became president. they are trying to protect him as much as possible by blowing things off. even though giuliani is more of a pr spin, he unquestionably senses the danger to his client. he is the private lawyer. he is not the office of white house counsel. he is trying hard to protect trump from future danger he has talked himself into. on this question of whether donald trump talked to michael
from guatemala, an 8-year-old boy and 7-year-old girl who we should be talking a little bit more about because these two children are really symbols how america is failing at this immigration issue. the president s own commissioner of u.s. customs and border patrol told cbs news we need to do things differently. we need resources to go to mental health, facilities where we can house children. so the problems are mounting and i think the president hopes through his pr spin he can make the democrats own this, but i think there s so many issues with this white house he s overwhelmed by them. you mentioned those cuts and i we covered that on this program. i know several of you have looked at that story. and take a listen to the defense of one congressional republican on that issue. i think it s wrong to somehow blame i.c.e. they ve had hundreds of thousands of people they ve had custody of over the years and i think these are the only two children that have died.
says we all know the president wanted the shutdown and said he was going to be proud to do this over border security. i would add to that list about the issues the president has and other things that the president has is two dead children in federal custody. these are two immigrant children from guatemala, an 8-year-old boy and 7-year-old girl who we should be talking a little bit more about because these two children are really symbols how america is failing at this immigration issue. the president s own commissioner of u.s. customs and border patrol told cbs news we need to do this differently. we need resources to go to mental health, facilities where we can house children. so the problems are mounting and i think the president hopes through his pr spin he can make the democrats own this, but i think there s so many issues with this white house she s overwhelmed by them. you mentioned those cuts and i we covered that on this program. i know several of you have
wanted the shutdown and said he was going to be proud to do this over border security. i would add to that list about the issues the president has and other things that the president has is two dead children in federal custody. these are two immigrant children from guatemala, an 8-year-old boy and 7-year-old girl who we should be talking a little bit more about because these two children are really symbols how america is failing at this immigration issue. the president s own commissioner of u.s. customs and border patrol told cbs news we need to do this differently. we need resources to go to mental health, facilities where we can house children. so the problems are mounting and i think the president hopes through his pr spin he can make the democrats own this, but i think there s so many issues with this white house she s overwhelmed by them. you mentioned those cuts and i we covered that on this program. i know several of you have looked at that story. and take a listen to the defe