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msnbc political contributor. welcome, guys, good to have you both here. pe peter, i m going to start with you. you re right about how there s no guide book, the first former president facing criminal charges, and thus how democrats are quote feeling their way through a fraught moment that presents both opportunity and peril for all sides. so walk us through the details here so we have an unprecedented situation in american history. we have a former president facing criminal charges. as you mentioned there, president biden has offered to keep silent, he wants to let the legal process play out trump is innocent until proven guilty so that s the posture that he s taken. but there is a whole ecosystem of democratic outside interest groups, strategists, operatives, and they re weighing what to do in this moment and there are some who want to really capitalize on trump s misfortune here. they would like to send out e-mails. they want to place digital ads

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