jeff, these are high power attorneys, doesn t make any sense, a lawyer at this level talking in a restaurant like this. i ride the train a lot, people are talking loud. you often think to you re, people couldn t do the dump things that they do, but they do. and he and apparently these are very experienced lawyers. this is a very conspicuous place, this is right by the office of the new york times. kim vogue ls did the noble thing. when people are talking about newsworthy topic he listened. he found out the controversy here is a familiar one for everyone. the issue of how much up to cooperate the president s own lawyer apparently wants to cooperate more by the white house counsel,