detained in russia? no, pamela, they have not. that s a grave concern for them right new. you talk about how you ve got this kind weird dichotomy where they find out he s alive, thank goodness and find out he s in custody and charged with spying. it was a real whiplash for them. they re waiting for u.s. officials in russia from the american embassy to have a meeting with wheelan while he s in custody. oh, we just lost martin there in michigan. he s standing by hoping to speak with some of the family members of paul wheel whelan. matthew, where is paul whelan