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as to what extent he may have been privy to conversations with donald trump on that day of the attack and exactly where he was at other points of that day. as you said, he s appeared now multiple times before the grand jury and it also hits at the heart of the fact that the special counsel s office continues. one other point, will smith, he is still being paid through his firm by the trump 2024 campaign, $12,000 a month here. so he is somebody who is still very much in donald trump s orbit and a part of the current operation. will russell. will russell. and he s a young guy, in his post-white house life. election law matt sanderson is joining our conversation as well. as we expand the conversation, i want to bring in ryan who s at the courthouse. do we know any details about when exactly the grand jury is going to be meeting with russell, and what else could happen with this grand jury today? reporter: you know, it s a lot of reading the tea leaves. what we can say is his lawye

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