were putting policy forward that actually helped these families of the border, i think everyone would be melissa: that s what got me, too pay this isn t about policy. nobody was pushing katie: politically, this actually matters. because this forces nancy pelosi to come to the defense of the squad. harris: do you think she will? katie: she did, she came out on twitter and defended them. the polling shows that although in washington, as nancy pelosi says, these four have four votes, in the middle of the country they have made themselves the face of the party as extremists and now nancy pelosi is defending them as a go into the selection. harris: can have a quick follow-up to that? do you think she has come out on twitter defending them, but the real defense will have to be on the house. that s where the fight was. because they seriously s be safe a kennedy: but it allowed the focus to go off of that. clearly, the progress of s and the establishment are in representing
kennedy: yes, and there are so many places on the chain that are completely eroded by both parties. not wanting to deal with it. so the system literally degrades and erodes over time. that s what happens. you can focus on emigration beds, you can focus on i.c.e. going and i think part of what i.c.e. is doing is changing the perception. the idea for a lot of people coming here, as long as you can get past the southern border, once you re inside, you are safe. i think what i.c.e. is trying to do is say, no, we have a system in place of going and finding them, but that also stoped so much fear. and i don t think it solved the problem of mass numbers of people coming in the southern border. melissa: it so hypercritical for lawmakers really quick to be sitting at home right now, not in washington, not writing legislation. harris: they do that on a lot of issues. they are politically constipated. kennedy: can i add one quick thing to this?
web and go and read the pdf. for free. brian: i have news for you, it s not a quick read, but harris: it s not paid the first 45 pages are all about how russia messed with us and everybody ought to be that. brian: i read the whole thing. i m lonely, clearly. but i got through melissa: many long plane rides! brian: are some surprises in there! steve harris: do you want people to read it you allowed? katie: they did, they would on the floor you can go watch that on c-span, it s in the archives. watch on youtube. i m sure the house committee democrats have edits, they probably sent out emails. everyone has it. you can buy the mueller report of the bookstore while you re at the airport. you can get for free on the internet. harris: it s a pdf, doesn t take that much. kennedy: addressing it by any different modality won t change the contents of the report. that s almost the wishful
with, she has a golden opportunity to have a one-on-one audience. it s a shame to me that she doesn t have the courage to do that. because she could instantly impact change. when she was asked that question on meet the press she said it would take about 50 policy reversals. she doesn t feel like you would go far enough for her to feel differently about him. how does she know? how does she know what he won t do? she needs the courage to do something specific, she has that opportunity and almost no one else does. kennedy: m said we aren t focusing on the game, like brian said. i m sad we are not focusing on the spreadable team and what women soccer has built over the years. the fact that they repeat world cup titles? the men didn t even qualify and here they are, the champions. megan rapinoe is an incredible soccer player. unfortunately she s making it about her and her policies, and she should say, lift to the
and i thought i was thinking, too. what are we having a conversation about? what is this about? kennedy: i agree with brian and with harris that the president shouldn t have inserted himself in this way, because nancy pelosi and squad were doing a great job of cannibalizing their own party and republicans in the present , if they want to be more successful, would be smart to sit on the sidelines and let that happen and continue to play out. and this is one the president has the most problems. this is when his instincts don t best surfing. there s an argument to make, and i think lindsey graham, when he goes ham, he makes it pretty well. when he talks about these people being essentially ungrateful commies, and harris: they need to aim higher with the rhetoric, that s the part i thought you meant. kennedy: absolutely right, but these four women with the amount of influence they have and the fact that so many people are paying attention to what they re saying, if they were talkin