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Transcripts for CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman 20191224 13:10:00

name fraud garuaranty came from. it s because parnas was indicted and didn t want that to be the first thing that came up in a google search. he decides to name his company fraud guaranties but that s associated with a company and not necessarily his checkered past. brilliant. i wouldn t go that far. i think the core thing to remember is the company was called fraud guaranty. you didn t mishear that at home. you have known rudy giuliani for many years, as have i. there s a dark poetic irony about the fact that this article and interview came out almost 18 years to the day after he was named time magazine s man of the year after leading the city of new york through 9/11. and there s a conversation in this interview about his legacy. and i want to read it to you. in it he says, he reads his own press and sees that his friends, these sources close to him are being weaponized by the conspirators, helping to paint a public portrait of a man

Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20191224 21:27:00

happen. so, karen, speaking of his legacy, this stood out as well in the piece. in talking about his legacy, he reads his own press and he sees his sources close to him are being weaponized by the conspirators painting a portrait of a man unglued and people have been told to be careful with his legacy and my attitude he said about my legacy is f it. we could figure out what the asterisks mean there. but there is a serious question about what did happen to america s mayor, the man so many people outside of new york got to know in the wake of 9/11 and how does that square with the rudy giuliani we all see today? so can i just say, i actually worked for the new york city board of education under the tenure of rudy giuliani as mayor. he is a shifty guy. he is nasty. he does not play by the rules. the stuff that i saw him doing was very corrupt, very inappropriate. and so and i ll tell you as a former new yorker, part of this

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