year. there is nothing like that number anywhere in the homeland security s report year over year over year, and he has said that they re coming through the wall, they re coming through this porous border. 95% of people they catch they catch at ports of entry. can we agree on the facts? how do you see the problem? if you re going to say millions of people, you have to leave off the part every year. the cumulative effect are millions. he didn t say that. i understand that. but the peak of our illegal immigration, we were up to 4 million attempts a year by the border patrol. that s part of the testimony in the hearing. it s important to cite that in a way, but it s more objective to roll this thing down and understand this has slowed down over the last ten years, for economic reasons, lower birth rate in mexico reasons. it s also been accelerated with regard to the illegal drugs