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the papacy itself. the cardinal in boston has done that. but trying to get away from all the stuff that elevates the leaders of the church and separates them from the people who really need the church. you know, i think first it s important to say, chris, that pope francis really does believe in the continuity of the papacy and we know he still has a strong relationship with his predecessor, pope benedict. but we knew his archbishop of buenos aires he gave up the palace. he lived in an apartment. he took public transportation. he felt that the best way to preach the gospel was to live like one who is poor. and so going to rome and living in the vatican, he has continued along that path and he has said basically that there really is no imperial papacy, one doesn t need a palace, one doesn t need a limousine, one doesn t need those trappings to define himself. he wants to be seen as a poor

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ethnic groups in the city and why they hate each other. i was struck when the pope referred to this he said in this place with all itsivator and the common interests of so many people. he automatically went not to differences leading to conflict but to differences leading to common interest. it doesn t always happen in our politics but that is the aspiration he laid out for us. mayor, i want to bring you back in. i think people think of you as a conservative catholic on the issue of abortion rights and being strict with the church on that and observant to teachings. the people that have had the biggest public reaction to this pontiff are those on the liberal side. how do the two groups get together? the people who have been accepting and teaching authority and those who have questioned it

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sustained applause it was almost like and perhaps i am reading something into this but the c g congregation about nuns and women in particular in the church. pope francis ended this kind of investigation into the american nuns. i think some of what he said in praising them for being outspoken was important. i think the audience was acting in support of them. i think that struck me at a lot of these events, as well. it is something the church will have to keep thinking about and maybe someday doing something about. i saw the same women in the back row. that was so much a statement in itself. let s go inside madison square garden to someone there, my associate, my colleague joy reed. you are in there. what don t we see?

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interested in promoting his own order or any particular agenda rather recognizing holiness where he sees it. we are going to continue watching this high mass from madison square garden. it s quite a moment for catholics and other people to see the catholic church but also to remember i think very important to keep in mind the best work of the church is with the poor and the sick and the elderly and the teaching role the church plays every day of the week especially the work done by the nuns who aren t so evident here tonight.

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combination of humility and joy that is appealing way beyond the confines of the catholic church. i got a couple of e-mails from nonbelieving friends who said do i have to believe to belong to the catholic church? they were so struck by francis at the capital when he said even if you don t believe wish me well. oddly, preaching a gospel that way as opposed to saying i am right and you are wrong, this way is much more evangelical. professor, you know i wanted to continue the thoughts about the ritual here and the role of latin. are we going to keep some role for latin? it is the language of the church. i think it will always be a part of the church and it can be used anywhere in the world. the eucharist can be celebrated in any language.

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