actually saying if i tell you, a lot of members of the house of representatives are saying, why not just hold a vote on the floor so that way, being able to go out and have teeth when we re asking for you to comply with this information. so i think that that s one of the this is the look, there is this political, believe it or not, there is a political game being played with the american people where you have got one aspect of the house of representatives that does not want to put people on record and you ve got an administration that doesn t want to just hand over information because they don t trust the process. i m just telling you what the two sides are behaving the way that they are. i think the congresswoman is exactly right. they are trying to put democrats in a position of having to actually put some skin in the game with votes, and they believe that nancy pelosi doesn t actually have the 218 votes and she had the 218 people
saying that the house is trying to intimidate and bully state department employees. i know you say it s almost comical, but is that what you is that what the committees are trying to do? are you trying to make the state department comply. all of this is about the bullying of donald trump who withheld $391 million in military aid that congress had voted to go to our besieged ally, ukraine, which is fighting against russia and vladimir putin. donald trump held it up. he delayed it and then engaged in the now infamous conversation where he said though there is something that we want from you and that s something, of course, was the information that he thought would be damning about joe biden and joe biden s son. congressmen, the key question, i think at this moment is if pompeo doesn t comply, if
the pressure of this issue. trump and giuliani were involved in this for months. giuliani was reporting to trump, that s what giuliani has said. but we re going to find out an awful lot. people are being a little bit oh this document and that document. it s going to be investigated. people are going to have to testify, there will be further documents. i don t believe the house will or should accept the notion that people won t testify. if you re in an impeachment hearing people will have to say. i m not going to say? why not? attorney/client privilege? he wasn t acting at trump s personal attorney in ukraine, trump didn t have personal business interests that he was representing. he was there as a vague, private envoy allegedly on behalf of the united states. he has to testify to congress and if he doesn t testify and if pompeo doesn t testify, barr will have to testify and say they never asked me do anything or they asked me and i said no, we re going to learn what s happened in the
considered a modern authority on the subject. so thank you for joining me today. thank you. i saw in may of 17 you wrote an op-ed, considering impeachment, question mark, slow down. and but today we see the president explicitly ask a foreign government to help in investigating a political rival. the question to you is, is that an impeachable abuse of powner your opinion? it could well be. the point of that earlier article and i appreciate you looking at it was that i thought calls for impeaching president trump was too soon. impeachment is depending on fact-finding and that is what the speaker is asking for, fact-finding and investigations on the recent instance, the talk with the president of ukraine but that talk as we ve read about it so far seems to be very disturbing. doesn t matter whether there is a quid pro quo, he s asking a
this and what exactly does the president say, how they respond, if the president gets a question about the acting dni and what his position on all of this is. we are going to continue to see the president insist i didn t do anything wrong. the question will be once than complaint comes out what is said after that. one quick point on the acting dni. the fact the complaint is going to the intelligence committees before the acting dni talks to the committee tomorrow, they re going to have a lot more information when they question him. than they would have otherwise. i think that this is in part potentially why we re seeing the washington post story. he s going to be on the hot seat definitely even if they don t publicly release information, the committee members will know it, have it and a very different conversation than if they know nothing. i want to point out that we have three committees that have threatened to subpoena people at the state department if pompeo doesn t turn over