talk to at some point. why are you hedging? i don t know if they ll get to talk to them. here s a couple things that could be interesting. john bolton in november gave a speech where he said that he thought donald trump had some personal business interests and terms of foreign policy having to do with turkey. i would love to know to get bolton on the record under oath talking about that. during the roger stone trial, it came out there was testimony that suggested that trump might have lied in his written deposition. if you can get him mcgahn to testify, who knows where it will go. the last thing would be rudy giuliani. earlier tonight you talked about how he has this insurance policy. that could be explosive if it came out. i don t think we ll talk to pomp pompeo probably.
closer to impeaching president trump, building their case that he orchestrated a plan to withhold military aid and dangled a white house meeting in exchange for ukraine announcing investigations into his political rivals. multiple democratic sources telling cnn, they re hoping to wrap up by christmas, including holding proceedings before the house judiciary committee, drawing up articles of impeachment against trump and holding a vote on them. we ll regroup next week. and talk about the steps moving forward. reporter: but the investigation has hit some roadblocks. the white house and state department both stone walling democrats from accessing important documents and having access to top administration officials, allegedly involved in the scheme. what i would like to see happen next, is that ambassador bolton and secretary of state pomp pompeo, do what the brave and courageous people who work for them did, is to step forward and
conversations but received no response. that directly contradicts what pompeo said last month, that mckinley never raised any concerns. if you remember, pompeo is often asked on national television whether or not there were any conversations about what did he know, and he literally doesn t answer. he deflects, he bumbles, he gives no answer. it appears that maybe because there is quite an answer to that question. joining us now, former u.s. senator now an nbc news and msnbc political analyst claire mccaskill. and contributing writer for the atlantic magazine and dean of the johns hopkins university school of advanced international studies, elliot cohen is back with us. so, elliot, first of ail, dean cohen, what is your takeaway just from the secretary of state saying he had absolutely no recollection of any conversation that the ambassador pointed out
one term of trump maybe, two terms i begin to doubt it. senator mccaskill, i m struck by hearing the testimony from ambassador mckinley and hearing and juxtaposing that against what secretary pompeo said, that he never talked with him about such and such and such and such. is it time for to us basically take this as our default position that these folks are lying every time they open their moeth mouths? i ve said over and over again this is a white house and cabinet members that lie more often than most people brush their teeth. lying is an ethos of this president. it s the example he s set. how many have they counted? i loose track of how mase tracke counted. he lies ten times a day. if you have that leadership coming from the top, it s no problem if you work for him if you lie. what s he going to do, fire you for lying? that s just not going to happen. by the way, the american people kinda get that, the fact that so many people in some of these battleground states are giving them
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