talking about how the debate has moved, and it moved dramatically. most of that movement is among democrats. there has been a little bit of movement among republicans. but when you look at issue priorities, this is the one where the two parties are the farthest apart. health care, immigration, the parties are at least speaking the same language about the problem. this one, when you look at what republicans and democratic voters responding to polling say, it s like mandarin and klingon. they re in two different places about why this is happening and how to address it. i think trump s most powerful talking point, he did it a lot before he became president, but even says it now. he ll say things like look, china and india aren t going to do these things. why should america tie themselves one arm behind the back kind of thing. and that argument is effective with a group of voters that are more than just his base. that s right, chuck. and i also think that when you try to grapple with t