that. that s a really interesting point, and that is something on which gates could help directly because, theoretically, as we ve been reading and hearing, gates was at that meeting at the cigar bar in new york city where manafort passed that polling information to kilimnik. if you re wondering what gates might be cooperating about, that s very likely a topic. on a friday, i can t think much a better way to wrap up. chuck rosenberg, thank you so much. thank you for having me. and we ll be right back. this and even this. but i don t have to clean this, because the self-cleaning brush roll removes hair, while i clean. - [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans, now cleans itself.
heard manafort s attorney no collusion outside the courtroom considering that wasn t part of his ruling? that may still be yet determined by a court of law, it s an open question and hasn t been indicated. everybody seeks to minimize what is going on here by saying no collusion. the trump tower meeting was collusion. i would suggest the manafort meeting with konstantin kilimnik and handing him the inside expensive polling information in and of itself was collusion. but it is an open question, and we may yet get to it. and the fact of the matter is they re trying to say no big deal here in spite of the fact again, don, 199 criminal charges, 39 criminal indictments or plea deals and six or seven prison sentences now depending how you count them. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler says matthew
that may still be yet determined by a court of law, it s an open question and hasn t been indicated. everybody seeks to minimize what is going on here by saying no collusion. there has been collusion. the trump tower meeting was collusion. i would suggest the manafort meeting with konstantin kilimnik and handing him the inside expensive polling information in and of itself was collusion. but it is an open question, and we may yet get to it. and the fact of the matter is they re trying to say no big deal here in spite of the fact again, don, 199 criminal charges, 39 criminal indictments or plea deals and six or seven prison sentences now depending how you count them. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler says matthew whitaker, the former acting a.g. not denying a report the president called him to discuss the michael cohen case. would it be improper or illegal
case that manafort deliberately lied about his dealings with the guy who produced detailed polling information for the trump campaign. one of the collusion allegations that has ariz risen about the trump campaign is the prospect that the trump campaign provided russian sources with internal detailed technical polling information that would have conceivably been helpful to russian intelligence while they were mounting that foreign intelligence campaign to try to tamper with the election to benefit trump. well, manafort in his d.c. case was found to have lied to prosecutors about his contacts with the russian intelligence guy, and he was found to have lied to prosecutors about his dealings during the campaign with the guy who handled the trump polling. well, lying to keep those things covered up and then lying to a sea of reporters and tv cameras to say hey, these judges found there was definitely no collusion, well, if there was collusion and there are worries that this president might
the judge agrees, no collusion. when in fact the judges in those courthouses never considered that question at all, let alone what evidence might support that prospect or not. and so i don t know if those lawyers get in trouble for that performance, and honestly, in the broader context here, whatever paul manafort may know about that subject or not, he didn t cooperate with prosecutors to give them truthful and useful information about it. remember, prosecutors in both courthouses told the judges that manafort should get no credit whatsoever for his supposed cooperation because he wasn t in fact cooperative with them. and in this d.c. court today, the judge affirmed her earlier ruling that manafort in fact deliberately lied to prosecutors about his connections during the campaign with a russian guy who is tied to russian intelligence. she also ruled in the manafort case that manafort deliberately lied about his dealings with the guy who produced detailed polling information for the tru