joining us now for the interview i m very happy to say, senator elizabeth warren from massachusetts has a new book out called this fight is our fight. thank you so much for being here. delight to be here with you. this is your 11th book. it is. a bunch of your other books were your pre-electoral politics life. you wrote about bankruptcy the middle class, debt, dual income families. you could see inour earlier writing the way you made the transition from academic to advocate, policy wonk and now elected official. that s right. why keep writing books because you re aelected politics? it s still a tool in the toolbox to get out there and fight. the point about all of this is really, books are identifying
essentially was a surcharge that had you to raise on the republican side at least you have to raise a certain amount of money and don t flight it to the republicans to stay on the committee. absolutely. republicans and democrats have the same system in place. if you are on an a committee, one the top committees appropriations, ways and means, energy and commerce, you have high dues and you have to raise the money to pay those dues. and if you want to be a chair you have to raise more money. if you want to be in leadership you have to raise more money. steve: so it s pay to play. it absolutely is. steve: is that sounds crept. it is corrupt. we need to have ethics laws in place that actually prohibit that from being a criteria in the selection process. steve: how does paul ryan feel about this book? paul ryan is a great guy. is he a policy wonk. inincredibly bright and honorable person. is he dealing with a system that is corrupt. i think he is trying to fix it the best he can he
action. i m not knocking them, that s my wing of the party. that will never pass the party. never. this is what happens when you have a white house with policy they outsource like the judicial to federalist society. who did a great job. gorsuch is a grand slam. do you think that s an accident it s going well? they outsourced it. outsourced it to the federal society. again, with all due respect to my friend paul ryan, they outsourced the most important fix to a guy who is smart and ernest and a policy wonk but is not tip o neill. speaking of paul ryan. when it comes to gathering votes. one other thing, too. oh, my lord. the stupidity of steve bannon knows no end. they didn t have anybody if they had somebody in the white house who actually knew how washington works, then this would never have happened.
he didn t talk to journalists beforehand or the policy community, and i think that was perhaps the biggest flaw and the biggest mistake. the biggest knock you hear about paul ryan that it rings true, tom is here is this incredible policy wonk who hates politics and he took a job that was all politics. he knew he wasn t as suited for it as others wanted it to be. the president put his arms around it, but i think he s been wounded in this quite honestly and nobody else wants that job and quite surprised, however, and i hesitate to use the phrase, naivety. doesn t aaron rodgers always start slow, though? isn t he always start slow in the. best line i ve heard week is a day without a tweet is a very good day. it s also very hard to no matter how good of a politician you are to sell the idea of taking 24 million people s healthcare away. that is not sellable. in ryan s defense, i don t
skills that he promised would break through gridlock in washington. if you can t make a good deal with a politician then there s something wrong with you. you re certainly not very good. and it damages the reputation of house speaker paul ryan. the self-described policy wonk that republicans drafted to push through conservative legislation, and it raises questions about the party s overall ability to govern. we were a ten-year opposition party where being against things was easy to do. quite frankly, we have a group of people that are no on everything. it is an early victory for grassroots activism on the left. after angry town halls put pressure moderate lawmakers to vote no. now obamacare s survival or collapse lies with mr. trump, a president who vowed to dismantle it. on friday he told the new york times, quote, he was pleased to have it all behind him. it s enough already. though the president tried to pin some blame on democrats.