actually sell what it is the democrats are trying to do to the american people broadly. there s been so much debate for months now. we ve heard about top line numbers going back and forth, and you can hear the frustration in democratic leaders in congress. nancy pelosi says all the time, it s not about the top line, it s what s in it. that has not gotten past the beltway to actually start selling when you know you look at other polling, popular items are part of the substance of this. that is not getting through to the american people. what do they say when you ask about that at the biden white house? look, there s been a debate in the white house, a $6 trillion package, now we have to roll it back to 3.5, and now it s going lower. you can t write the policy particulars until you know how much money you have to spend, and yet they have the american people listening to all these numbers and they don t understand, that means free pre-k, that means free community college, that means c
president trump is a dealmaker. i think we should have a strong, secure border security plan, marriott with the dream act and make a down payment on immigration reform and move forward. they are going to try to redefine amnesty. lindsey graham has always been an open borders individual. if granting amnesty as a pardon for immigration lawbreakers. bret: the president is signaling he wants to sign something. right, that s the point. he s not into the policy particulars. i think he will sign something. bret: he added congress has six months to legalize daca, something the obama administration was unable to do. if they can t, i we will revist the issue. he has indicated the so-called dreamers will not be a priority for deportation.
president trump is a dealmaker. i think we should have a strong, secure border security plan, marriott with the dream act and make a down payment on immigration reform and move forward. they are going to try to redefine amnesty. lindsey graham has always been an open borders individual. if granting amnesty as a pardon for immigration lawbreakers. bret: the president is signaling he wants to sign something. right, that s the point. he s not into the policy particulars. i think he will sign something. bret: he added congress has six months to legalize daca, something the obama administration was unable to do. if they can t, i we will revist the issue. he has indicated the so-called dreamers will not be a priority for deportation.
addly so. we ve been saying forever we need to fix this and we weren t able to do so. so i think we ought to stick with it certainly. but i think we ought to do it in a way we can actually see the end. and the end is going to be sitting down with our colleagues from the other side of the aisle and getting something passed. bill: we ll figure out what democrats are willing to give on that and we ll discuss that. a great debate today. does an effective tax strategy make it better or easier for republicans? easier. what the president put out with the policy particulars, it s republican orthodoxy, lower the rates, broaden the base. i hope we can move forward. it is vital now for republicans to move forward on tax reform. bill: the book you ve written is getting a lot of attention because many have seen it as your dislike of the
is that something that s going to happen? what are the perils of that? the message you heard coming out of various sources of the senate, it s nl not going to happen. it sounds good in a tweet. sounds like something republicans have been saying eight years. also is a way i think in the mind of the president to put pressure on recalcitrant measures on both members of the house and senate to get something done on this. what they know, what members of the house and senate know in the republican party whether you do clean repeal, pass the house version, the senate version you re going to wind up with a situation that republicans own health care. and that i think is what s holding this process up more than the policy particulars. brianna, real quick, look, it s kind of back to the future on that. that s where they started but they were not able to get 50 republicans in the senate to say they would vote to repeal without knowing what came next. if you think the cbo score which so concern