a country. we are a very emotional country. somehow our politics have become ugly in their language and lack of humanity. you know, i m not commenting on fox. these are people with their opinions. they have every right to have their opinions. but they they show a kind of lack of basic human decency that personally i think some people include something republicans find little hard to swallow. we appreciate your time and perspective. thank you. thanks. important to point out, this policy of separating children from their families, it has been happening for decades, well before president trump. but rapidly accelerated under his zero-tolerance policy. the u.s. government estimates it now holds nearly 12,000 immigrant minors. those children are often moved without notice among more than
president trump s policy of separating families at the border is causing an epic conflict and between right and wrong. let s get after it and test the arguments. joining us for a great debate, catherine rampell and stephen moore, thank you both for being available on a friday night. which president trump should i listen to. let me play you two pieces of sound from this same week. we re signing an executive order. i consider a very important order about keeping families together but that s only limited. no matter how you cut it, it leads to separation ultimately. which is it? i signed an executive order, i m going to keep families together or i signed an executive order, it doesn t keep families
from democrats. earlier today, congressman john garamendi was at the facility in mcallen, texas. welcome. good to be with you and with my 25 colleagues who came down here to see what s going on and try to figure out a way to solve a very, very serious humanitarian problem. kristin: have you seen any improvement since president trump stopped the policy of separating families at the border? there s no doubt that his order of zero tolerance created a huge humanitarian crisis separating children from families and they re dispersed across the nation and a serious question do we really have the capability to rejoin these people. it s good that the president rescinded his policy. the immediate effect was that the processing that was underway prior to his rescission led to parents and children being
them compassion, but it s not like he s doing this to the people of idaho or texas. these are people from another country and now people are saying that they re more important than people in our country who are paying taxes. wow. joining me now, sophia nelson, former gop counsel on the house overnight committee and author of e pleasure un. sophia, welcome to the show, my friend. thank you. let s go to you on this first. i want to play a piece of donald trump s supporters at this rally that he held on wednesday in minnesota who were asked about donald trump s policy of separating families at the border. take a listen. if i tried to take my family to canada illegally, i m not going to be allowed to do anything. if i take my family into mexico illegally, you might not ever see me again. so i think it s a very just policy even though unfair for
this is nothing new and even the last administration was plagued with this same problem and thousands of these unaccompanied minors were flown all over the united states to be reunited with suspected family members or people that knew them, so this is nothing new. the sad thing about it is, you know, there are a lot of little bitty children and infants and even pregnant women fixing to have babies and we ve had situations in our area where our border volunteers worked where the women delivered babies out in the brush. so it s just a real terrible situation, but you know, we re dealing with it. we re dealing with it. so you agree, it s a terrible situation but you spoke with my colleague, kerry sanders and you supported president trump s policy of separating parents and children. so what are your thoughts on all of this, the president s executive order ending the policy of separating migrant families? well, you know, i m agreeable