officials, what position it puts them in to not have that information and then to go about and do their job. we already know from one important intelligence official, who remains unnamed as they should, that whistle-blower, that concerned this person so much in terms of what they re seeing out of the oval office, they had to enact those rarely used whistle-blower channels. but the whole thing is extremely difficult not just for the intelligence community but i would say the policy making community as well. when you re not sure exactly what the president is saying to these leaders, he s using people, instead of seasoned diplomats like kurt volker, who recently resigned and current ambassador to ukraine, massimo and not using those seasoned professionals and guys like rudy giuliani instead, it s very confusing not only to the country we re dealing with, ukraine but to our policymakers like the state department. it s pretty chaotic in a location you don t have a whole lot of room to mak
the status quo forward to deal with reality, such as the one facing us with north korea and the nuclear capability. there won t be buttons pushed here. we re talking about a national security advisor that will push the rest of the policy making community to come up with solutions reflecting the reality in front of our face. paul: mary, it s suggested that some how he is dog mattic, can t get along with people. he was ambassador to the united nations. he got a lot of sanctions on north korea through the united nations. he developed something in the second bush administration in 2003 called the proliferation security initiative which got the world together to be able to police arms movements and w.o.m.d. movements. in the first h.w. administration he worked a peace deal on the western sa sahara. he got u.n. res lying resolue
not being car careful but pushig the status quo forward to deal with reality, such as the one facing us with north korea and the nuclear capability. there won t be buttons pushed here. we re talking about a national security advisor that will push the rest of the policy making community to come up with solutions reflecting the reality in front of our face. paul: mary, it s suggested that some how he is dog mattic, can t get along with people. he was ambassador to the united nations. he got a lot of sanctions on north korea through the united nations. he developed something in the second bush administration in 2003 called the proliferation security initiative which got the world together to be able to police arms movements and w.o.m.d. movements. in the first h.w. administration he worked a peace deal on the western sa sahara.
helpful but expressing some surprise how advanced the north korean program appears to be. here is mike pompeo on that surprise issue. the intelligence community has done remarkable work to deliver to policymakers the progress the north korean regime has been making but it doesn t surprise me the folks who came before me act surprised. they did nothing. shannon: he says they shouldn t be surprised with a nuclear warhead equipped to an icbm pointed at the u.s. mainland. i think it s fair for him to point out the intelligence community and policy making community in washington knew about these advances. that s true. i don t think it s fair of him to say the previous administrations did nothing, as he said. i think that s a bridge too far. and i think it s incumbent on him as the cia director in this situation to not criticize, to not go political and go in this direction. i don t know why he decided to
europe and other countries as well, we ve seen the same sort of pattern in other places, correct? yes, senator. i ll add to that, we have elections, important elections taking place in the year ahead in europe, and around the world, and we need to be deeply cognizant of all of the foreign actors with malign intent who are attempting to impact those elections as well. the cia has a role in trying to understand that threat in a deep and fundamental way and sharing that with each and every member of the policy making community. again, i m not asking you to rely on any intelligence or classified information. in your judgment, as you see the state of american politics and the political discourse, a president-elect who has questioned at times the judgment of our intelligence agencies, opponents to the president-elect who continuously question the legitimacy of his election, the shameful like fuful leak in th regarding unsubstantiated information designed to smear the president-elect, the