validity to that she does sort of roam in another circle and how does she fight that in the coming months? she certainly roams in another circle but it s how she frames the policy issues and i have to think the way the policy fights have gone, i think the person who is the democratic nominee is probably going to be in a position in terms of policy where it s going to be harder for the republicans to define her this way. these gaffes that mitt romney made to some of the errors that romney made but romney was an existing narrative. that is how republicans are trying to define her. she can easily get around that but she has to be weary of that. one thing, i think, that she will be taking a task on is legitimate basis for criticism and it s emerging, we are seeing, with more and more leaders. i take responsibility but i want no accountability. how do you think that balance played off in the interview?
that voted against president obama in 2012. and this is where the policy fights come in. again and again, we see conservative policies that attack the poor. today we learned the gop budget will propose spending cuts deeper than the previous blueprint. and here is how some on the right even talk about those in need. since the passage of the farm bill, states have found ways to cheat once again on signing up people for food stamps. and from the amount of obesity in this country, by team we re told do not have enough to eat. so that we can expand the new numbers of people that are on another government program and encourage them to sign up. what for? it grows the empire of dependency. tens of millions feed their families with help from food
care, i would have spent time on that. what s the difference? defunding obama care was delaying the law for year and taking away the money so that the bureaucrats could get people signed up for the exchanges and america would could have a time out and have a discussion about whether or not they like it. the speaker is trying to turn this into a boring fight between outside groups and himself so that we are not having a policy debate about whether or not this is a good deal. this increases spending and taxes. that s bad for the country. that s what we want to focus on. they want to clear the way for immigration reform. he has been clear about it. the campaign committee has been clear about it. these are policy fights and disagreements and the party should be strong enough that we can have a fact-based disagreement and not have boring conversations about it. let me get you to react to
culturally politically diverse country going on. and we go back and forth in between who wins and loses in policy fights, it s about what ask the real america. i think it has tremendously deep religious roots as well. i didn t start out the way i am politically. i moved from right to left. and i began even in college or younger i thought we do need social security. everybody can t end up on welfare because they didn t have enough real savings out of their work. you need a program to get people to save. and you need medicare for people who don t have health. nobody could pay the health care costs these days on their own. and you need civil rights. you can t wait for the southern states to agree 3/4 of the states. there had to be measures to move society ahead. that s when i started thinking through the libertarianism as a kid. but when cruz offers this libertarianism for kids like we don t really need social security or medicare. we don t need civil rights. all this stuff was taken ca
the entire list of things they demanded in exchange for reopening the government, which i just listed, all of which the put forward as demands, we now know that of their entire list, of all the things they tried demanding, they are getting nothing. nothing. nothing. you can argue for what you want through the legislative process by trying to make legislation, amend bills and win votes. you can win what you want in terms of policy by winning elections, but when you lose policy fights and elections, the line was drawn here tonight to say there isn t a third way. there is not another means of policy making available to you if you lose elections and the policy fight. you cannot just say, i m going to destroy things unless i get my way. if you try to do it that way, you will find that your list of demands, you get nothing. there is one thing they did get out of this disaster, to be