trump empire. and what he found than probably wouldn t shock anyone today. but back then it was a big deal. tim o brien discovered that donald trump s much lauded business excellence was actually far less impressive than trump had anyone to believe. he found that donald trump had been significantly overstating his net worth by billions of dollars. that he wasn t remotely close to being a billionaire. and so in 2005, tim o brien wrote a book exposing donald trump s prolific lies, and exaggerations about his wealth. donald trump reported by suing time o brien for defamation a year later, and that is how we got to see what it s like when donald trump testifies under oath. quoting from the transcript, attorney, mr. trump, have you always been completely truthful in your public statements about your net worth of properties? trump, i try. attorney, have you ever not been truthful? trump, my net worth blocked away, and it goes up and down with a market and with attitudes and w
practices. joining us as my old friend suzanne craig investigative reporter, for the new york times, she was one of the lead reporters on the times police surprise investigation, into donald trump s finances. suzanne, good to see this evening, thank you for being with us. it to seal. clearly, there was some calculated on the part of donald trump today that plead the fifth. why would it make sense for him to do that in this particular trial? with most devices businesses, it s not a criminal trial. we ll definitely was a lot of thought went into it from trump and his legal teams, and i think the reason why is that you got this silly puzzle case, if that goes to trial, it can be used against him in that form. and there s a lot of people have talked about that today as people have been mulling over this case, but you have to look that he s got this criminal case going on in new york. they are looking at him individually, and right now that doesn t seem to be like it s percolating tha