i think that s a fair point you re both hitting on, which is the way he s standing against everything, standing to thwart progress is the legacy he wants to preserve which brings us to another news update i have. dr. dean, it s always good to see you. mya stays with me for this one. bipartisan police reform talks, which is something we ve been covering on the beat since their inception. we ve been wondering if it was worth it but democrats like cory booker and others said give them a shot. the news tonight, these talks have collapsed. the three lead negotianegotiato congresswoman bass, senator booker and tim scott from the republican party basically making it official, calling it quits today. a key sticking point is something we ve reported on from the start. many experts and blm movement activists said you need to reform qualified immunity that shields police. if you don t do that, you don t get anywhere.
mitch mcconnell will budge? i don t see how he doesn t. how long will they play the political games before the rest of america calls them out? i ll call them out but all of america should call them out and say, i get it. you think you are great at politics but enough is enough. our economy is on the line. jobs are on the line. people s futures are on the line. the republicans need to do the sensible thing that the democrats did when trump was president and that is raise the debt ceiling. senator elizabeth warren, thank you for your time. i know it is a busy time for you there on capitol hill. we appreciate you being with us this afternoon. thank you. it appears that senator schumer just departed. we ll check back in on how those meetings are going in a bit but reaction to the formal collapse of police reform talks on the hill with the cousin of george floyd joining us live. first details of president
he in with pelosi and schumer? reporter: that s the expectation. the white house plans to issue their own version of how it went this evening, as well. see it stacked up and happening live in this hour if the changing of the guard happens from leadership to moderate to progressives and the meetings lined up. thank you all very much. we are going to leighann caldwell, there s another priority officially dead on capitol hill. this is developing this afternoon. the bipartisan police reform talks. those talks ending without a deal. come in and explain this to us. the talks were hot and then cold and then hot again and off for good? is that your sense? reporter: that s absolutely right. so senator booker who s the lead
moderate group of democrats. and then others are saying that perhaps the easiest way is just to shorten the time frame from ten years to five years. that will cut the price tag in half. so that s another part of this negotiation as well. very few people are publicly saying this but a lot of people are privately saying this, that $3.5 trillion is not going to be the price tag. that it is going to have to come down. the progressives already think that $3.5 trillion is already a compromise. so this is extremely complicated. this is like the messiest part of this sausage making. if i can just say one thing we have a little breaking news here, which is also another problem to the biden agenda. that police reform talks are officially dead. i just got word that senator booker has called senator scott and said that he s done negotiating. that they cannot come to an agreement. so this is just another problem
is going t it s not going to be $6 trillion, likely. but i think that they re going to want to get some of these priorities dealt with. i don t think they ll stand in the way of that. that gets a question mark as to the size. we ll see it there. somebody help me. someone tell me why i shouldn t do that and that. police reform talks will stall because it s complicated and a lot of republicans are saying we want a crime message. let s not give the president anything in voting rights. republicans trying to restrict voting rights. is there any reason to believe the republican will come on board for voting rights in washington or the democrats will change the filibuster rules? no, but that doesn t look, i don t make predictions. i think this is an open question. and i think more to the point, we have a senate in particular, but a congress that is functioning in a way that it really hasn t for quite some time. there are these bipartisan talks and deals being made. now, whether they g