this has not marred their experience in ukraine at all. wow. they say look, the war is probably not going to last forever. when it does end, they plan to go straight back to continue their education. they love ukraine, and they say that it s been wonderful experience. obviously save for the last throw days. that is remarkable, isn t it? this country is big for foreign students and education at the universities here. many of which they ll have to rebuild. scott, good to see you. thank you so much. scott mclean there. all right. now we ve got the foreign minister for poland kuleba arriving now. ukraine, sorry, ukraine arriving, mr. kuleba. we saw sergey lavrov arrive a few minutes ago. so both of these foreign ministers are now there for these talks in antalya. and we ll keep you updated on how it goes. all right. elena is a mother of two. she has been living through the invasion. she comes to us from the coastal city of odesa.