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malcolm nans, and nina, professor of international affairs and associate dean at the news school. good morning. malcolm, we ve learned that at least one of these three new people taken into custody was communicating with amri through the telegram act. that s the same app the paris attackers used. they re very hard to break, especially ones like telegram. they often have point to point encryption. that means unless you have that phone and you take that phone and you can break it out, that communication cannot be intercepted, and that s very difficult. some of the other apps disappear at the end of the communication. so you have no record of what s left there. isis prefers and isis supporters prefer the telegram act because of the encryption and the
communicate communicate. some of them piece have encrypted techniques. we called it back in the business when i was at the agency going black. that is, the ability to do point-to-point encryption between a terrorist in syria and somebody in washington or new york is increasing because the terrorists are obviously reading stuff, like the snowden revelations, but the over-the-counter stuff they can get, it s available to anybody who wants to use the internet is pretty darn good. it s very difficult to follow. some have already sited it s a propaganda win even if nothing happens, because we re talking about it and u.s. officials are raising concerns. of course it is if terrorism is terrorizing people then it s succeeding. even the threat of terror if people cancel their vacation which they should not do. they should go about doing their normal business that s a form of victory. the fact that it s ocurb during the holy monday of ramadan, if isis says to these young people go out and