we ll see what happens. sarah westwood, thank you. jane newton small from time magazine, good to see you, jay. on that last point sarah made, there still have to be a lot of things that have to be worked out. we re hearing reportedly that the two countries have agreed, but there are a lot of other intricacies that have to be worked out. how do you see this path? well, i think certainly it s an interesting move and one that i think donald trump welcomes enormously considering a federal court earlier last week banned their plan or suspended their plan to deny asylum to anybody who s crossed the border ille l illegally, so this is something obviously that has been a priority for donald trump to really grapple with this issue. asylum applications have more than quadrupled since 2014, and so it s been a pretty big issue for them. now, again, this is a very tentative deal. the mexican government has said
we see some consistency here, two thirds of the country. veto proof. the point sarah made is an important one of i think probably that small that base, that number is the one that started to change. that s where the shrinkage really began. because all those other republicans were already outraged. the watch for those member of congress was how are those folks in the district who have been card carrying hard charging trumpers from the very beginning going to respond? when that started to crack it touched the white house and it touched the congress. the challenge of course is that the damage is done. the damage is going to continue for weeks and months because there is going to be tragic stories unfortunately when up 2,000 or 2,500 families some are going to fall through the cracks. odds are. yeah. there is going to be press coverage of this for months. it s good that the white house reversed course. they needed to. but politically this was to me one of the darkest hours of the
they doeal with each other. they speak in public to send a message thanand this was a mess being sent to current team trump that be careful here. it s funny you say that because i think last week, last friday in that crazy press where president trump on the north lawn. one of the things he said is he was my lawyer. he spoke about michael cohen many the past tense which we ve learned that upset him. to sarah s point, this feels if they are speaking to each other publicly and it is a poke the bear back and forth. the other way of looking at this is if you use cohen, maybe it s time to change your policy. i want to move to another topic. david pecker, the publisher of