so, i think what democrats are going to do and what they have done in this ukraine case is use as a standard what will a reasonable person react to a plain set of facts and we re seeing that. that s why the numbers have moved. it may not move along republicans if they withhold their support across the board. but that doesn t discredit the idea because republicans as a matter of strategy are attempting to make it not bipartisan. thank you to all three of you again. always good to speak with all of you guys. obama s warning the mixed reaction to defense compromise and how it could impact the 2020 race. i ll be talking with reverend al sharpton coming up. oming up(dad) i think it s here. (mom vo) especially at this age. (big sis) where are we going? (mom vo) it s a big, beautiful world out there. (little sis) whoa. (big sis) wow. see that? (mom vo) sometimes you just need a little help seeing it.
these people are deluded, and 2 corinthians and he can t quote his favorite bible passage and he doesn t know the 23rd psalm or the new from the old testament, and yet they believe he is ordained by god. we are out of time, and i wanted you to reiterate one more time that next week we will begin seeing the public hearings, and is that when you expect them to happen? not necessarily. i think that jim heinz is more on point than elliott, because, you know, they have several people that they want to interview, and the two attorneys who took the phone memorandum, and locked it up where it shouldn t have been locked up so nobody could see it, and they wanted to hear from them and bolton and depends how many more votes adam can get in, and if the last week showed that we are going to be fair with the republicans and giving much more than the minority and the clinton and the nixon investigations, and the fact that all but two democrats are
to lose. i think at this point republicans wanted to keep their powder dry and that s why they voted for resolution last week. support for impeaching nixon was strong for republicans and then that flipped. mike support change from impeaching the president once these hearings are out in the open? how much hope is there for that, that these open hearings will change public sentiment? look, it s certainly a possibility. at the same time, just to take a step back over the last, you know, three, four years, one thing we ve seen is that public opinion has been relatively stable. i mean, we re living in an extremely partisan time. people have entrenched to their corners. you have a divided media environment where it s possible to sort of surround yourself with news that reinforces your existing beliefs if you re an american citizen. so, you know, when we talk about fighting for the middle, it s an increasingly dwindling middle. certainly we saw the support for impeachment go from the 30s
that is going to be key to the republicans efforts to push back against the inquiry, and this is why the identity of the whistle-blower is so important to them. and so, charlie, real quick, and haven t we gone way past go here? well, yes. as a matter of fact of trying to understand what is happening, and clear for a while here that whatever the whistle-blower had to say was made irrelevant by all of the depositions of the eyewitness testimony of people like bill taylor and others, but that is not what is going on here, because it is a political defense to try to put it all on kind of like saying that the russian investigation, and the mueller investigation was all about whether or not the steele dossier was credible and not all of the other information that started and drug up and so forth and happened after trump became president and let s focus on the one thing, and discredit the larger whole by kicking up the dust in the air, and as we are moving to the public phase of impeachm
see publicga hearings, and the public will be engaged in a way they haven t so far. witnesses will come h forward a tell their story, and every american can judge whether they believe them or not. at some point republicans who continue to only attack on the process and not engage on the substance when those witnesses are telling a compelling story, do so at their own political peril. and i think that very serious problem the president faces as this moves forward. bothov parties, phil rucker, face that problem with traditionalfa hearings. the benghazi hearing was 11 hours andha it was a disaster, turned out to be a disaster for the republicans, except that theyic uncovered the hillary clinton email issue which then became, you know, a fatal blow for her in the ensuing election. but the fact is that this resolution permits 45 minutes of interrogations, of questioning, not thein five minutes and then euro tating to euyou re rotatin to thein next for the cameras.