other countries, it is not easy to get asylum. you can come and you can try but most folks are not going to get it. laura: you can t stop asylum requests at the ports of enter. it makes it more dangerous and they have to make the 1,000-mile trek. when not to apply from their home country. they don t have that luxury. you are saying that they are not going to have asylum and most of them even under obama, 80% were denied. the point is they are already in the united states. they have been working maybe for several years already while their cases are going on. when they are finally denied in the end, they just don t show up. nobody is looking for them. the whole point. laura: they get here and then it is a get out of honduras or guatemala free card. they know they will be able to stay. less than 5% of the cases have been removed. the gentleman there, the reason he didn t use that is because he hasn t been coached by the
bey. is it wise to alienate a voting block that is pretty big? white women? some of the things that are being said it is like a whole voting block stigmatized based on their race. i thought we were supposed to get away from that. clearly. we are supposed to get away from that. i don t think it is a issue of stigmatizing and entire voting block. it is looking at people who don t vote in line with what the particular group we re talking about. so if we re talking about the left which is a multitude of people who just, you know, are left of center, there are a lot of opinions. there s a lot of diversity in there. they are talking about the white women who voted for donald trump. they re not talking about all white women. laura: white women can t vote for a conservative? i mean every american should have the right to vote for whoever he or she. laura: i agree with you. michelle bernard who is a she s great. laura: she made an interesting if not controversial point on a.m. j
december to do whatever it takes to strengthen the border. i will make one key point about all this. this is insanity. no country imagine it was your home and people down the street said, you know, i like your home and i want to come and claim i need refuge. 6,000 people show up and say, i hope you ll take care of me. it is crazy. we are to adopt a policy that says for the mexicans, nobody is crossing the border. if you don t want to stop them coming in from honduras, they are going to be in mexico. i would do whatever it takes to control the border. period, end of story. laura: congress has to act. they have to change the asylum laws. i m glad mccarthy has come along to the gospel here. if you actually control the border, they don t enter u.s. space. laura: they can walk through a port of entry and claim asylum. under current law. we have to change that whole process. i m for changing that. i m saying the ports of entry of necessary, if mexico won t cooperate in stopping the
legality to do that. they should have the right to at least be heard. laura: we don t have the facilities to at least hear people, millions of people. if that is the standard. mark kerkorian, we are compassionate country we help people in need all across the globe. on cnn today, this reporter who was covering the migration, she is very pro-migrant. but nevertheless, she made this point, following on what jose said. many of the programs that this money pays for, those programs are to try to prevent violence. to try to help people with poverty. if that aid is taken away the people who run those programs will tell you that you will likely see more immigration. you will likely see larger numbers at the u.s. border. laura: mark? there are plenty of ways we can put pressure on these countries. really, what is the point of being a superpower if you can t
they re trying to stop the caravan from coming through, and it hasn t worked. 2017, 229 million, national disaster, 76 million. 2019, $69 million projected. what about our sovereign right to protect our borders from what amounts to an organized effort to crush or rush the border right before the mid-term elections? first and foremost, let me just say that it makes no sense for the president of the united states to threaten honduras and say i am not going to give you this money if you let these people go through guatemala and mexico. it makes no sense. less money for central america? what will happen will be more crime. the caravans will just get bigger. it makes no sense. i don t think the president thought this through. this happens every day with his tweets. he should stop tweeting altogether. but to your point, laura, these people under international law