me to tell you why? are you ready to listen? are you ready to learn? bring it on history professor. bill: okay. they passed a law, congress, which bush signed into law that said military tribunals can deal with these people. khalid sheikh mohammed. obama himself, all right. resigned the law. so it doesn t make any sense economically, national security wise, logistically or any other way to take those people out from the military and put them in to a civilian trial unless you are trying to make a political point. listen, that may or may not be true. bill: no. that is true. not may or may not. that is true. let me give you the evidence on the other side. two, two former bush administration lawyers who worked in the d.o.j. under george bush came out with a very interesting opinion piece not long ago saying don t be so quick to pile on against holder when it comes to trying these suspects in criminal courts vs. military commissions because the
things. it s not the border fence per se. it s additional manpower, the kind of technology i was talking with you about. things like how we are handling deportation cases. all of those things certain as deterrent. bill: deport ago lot of people. a lot of people don t know this the obama administration is aggressively deporting bad guys out of the country? that s right. bill: we did a segment the other night on the mexican drug wars. i think president calderon should welcome federal agents and perhaps military people to assist. do you agree. yes. and he is. we are working with president calderon at the federal level. that includes. bill: but this would be a scoop if we can get our military and federal agents armed down there in mexico because they have not been welcomed up to this point. do you think they will be welcomed? well, they are welcomed in terms of arms. there are different arrangements with different agencies. but here is the thing. there are large cartels in mexi
there is one vote margin of error each way. there are about 20 congressman that voted yes that are in various stages of possibly switching to no. and there are about 15 congressman that voted no that are in various stages of possibly switching to yes. in terms of acutely likely to switch, you have about six on each side. so at this point it s almost a standoff. but that number is constantly in flux. let me give you a couple of examples. there is a congressman outside of pittsburgh jason altmire. he voted no last time. but now he doesn t have a tough fight for re-election. he figures the guys here are expected to run against him dropped out so the speaker is coming to him and saying now you have got to vote yes. he has been spoke to obama three times in the last week. on the other hand, three times a night the people in his district are getting ads that say vote no. and one organization is phoning
kelly but b. what she thinks about holder s point of view kelly, i am not a constitutional scholar as you are. you covered the supreme court. but you play one on tv. bill: i play one and play it effectively. i read the constitution. i m a former history teacher. i always thought that the constitution applied to american citizens. we didn t have to give people overseas, particularly terrorists, the same rights that we have. but, the attorney general of the united states, as you just heard, says yeah, we do. and it s tough if you don t think so. is he right? yes. he is right to a certain extent. once we have control of them and they are on american soil. bill: there you go. or american controlled territory like gitmo. this is how this originally comes up. bill: let me stop you there though, okay. captured overseas in pakistan was khalid sheikh mohammed. brought to guantanamo bay, not american soil it s leased. but controlled. that s the problem. bill: the constitution it
some deeming thing. we know that look, you can t when you interview a president, bret knows and i know you can only go up to a certain point. now, here is the point where bret baire, that mean guy, goes up to the line with mr. obama. roll it. so the notion. bret: you guarantee that they are going to be able to keep their doctor. bret, you have got to let me finish my answer. sir, i know you don t like to filibuster. well, i m trying to answer your question and you keep on interrupting so let me be clear. now, you keep on repeating the notion that it s one sixth of the economy. yes, it s one sixth of the economy but we are not transforming one sixth of the economy all in one fell swoop. what we are saying is is that for the vast majority of people who have health care, they are going to be able to keep it. bill: all right. we heard that 5,000 times before but he was scolding you because he can. you know, he has got the most powerful office. you have to be respectful.