Weve seen over the past nine months that people like the aca. We had overwhelming support for it. Its interesting to see these issues that if you were to ask someone how you feel about people going and getting an education or having health care, those are pretty evergreen. Martha heres the problem with that. A moral document, you say. Some people think its immoral to have 20 trillion in debt and some people feel like their tax dollars when they get sent to washington are being wasted. For them, they find, perhaps, a different kind of immorality in the way we pay taxes on the way the money is spent. Whats more about me paying 17,000 in land taxes . This is where the job is. Why should i have to move . The burden should not be on such a small percentage of people. The problem in our country now, the tinkerers are outnumbering the makers. We are doomed to socialism. Im sitting here as a Graduate Student and what im hearing is my income has apparently tripled and you say the takers are goi
for the large majority of people who are covered under the aca, they re getting support. i have to certainly disagree with that. every single small business owner in america, every single start up in america, every single company that s under 1,000 people in america is dealing with some very significant health care burdens in addition to which you have major insurers pull out of marketplaces across the united states continually driving up costs. the whole point of obamacare was to cover that 30%. we are not even to do that. martha: let me pose a larger question. in terms of how this is being paid for, doesn t bother any of you that it s basically moving money around rather than cutting spending, cutting government spending has not even been a topic. we are told will get to that later.
the affordable care act. the whole point of obamacare was to increase access through the health care exchanges of medica medicaid. you can t move the ball. 21 million people. if you looked at the private insurance markets, the employer market, they were doing pretty well before obamacare. they were not. not cost-wise. cost were going through the roof. yeah. i mean, the cost curve down significant hi. you put boat loads of federal dollars in there. it wasn t lowering cost. what are you suggesting, though? take away the money and people will be without health care and go back to a system where people used emergency this bill does not this freedom caucus. i m not free if i don t have access to health care. i am i am enslaved to that. i also want to bring in doug, the former rnc communications director. doug, you said the only thing worse than pulling a bill is having it go down in the vote.
enormous freedom for states to tailor their programs. doug eakin has advised presidential candidates and presidents. he is putting up the two world views colliding. the approach was the point of obamacare. everything would be treek weake. then this grassroots. when liberals hear grassroots, they hear cuts to poor people. and freedom and flexibility to the states. that is a republican core principle. he is the only one making that case. investigation nos use russi meddling into the elections. james comey met with the members
when they have the arguments about medicare. it was very unpopular. sinking in. there s millions and millions of people invested in it and it s going to work. it s 35% they wanted for young people. they have 29%. they wanted 40%. bob. the thing is the entire point of this law was to get people that were previously uninsured, insured. the people getting insured were kicked off insurance plans they liked. there are only 1.5 million people enrolled previously uninsured. what was the point of this? michelle it s because you might know more so i ll leave it at that. well, michelle, because bob and many on the left consider it success when they get control. that was the whole point of obamacare was getting complete control over health care in america and that s exactly what they achieved. the republicans have not countered that. they haven t put forth the fundamental basis of getting government out. that s why obama continues to