hands, and my question to you is simple, are you with me in this fight. i ean, that s another thing matthew didn t mention, but it is part of a trajectory, right, you start with the base. maybe save money until you actually get a serious challenger because you don t have one in the primary, and just wait for the general to really ramp things up. what do you make of it, susan? well, you know, joe biden has the great luxury of not having a credible primary opponent. the same situation matt faced with george w. bush, his father, george h.w. bush did not face. he had no choice but to get into an early and rigvigorous and wounded campaign i would argue, though, and this is a point mark was making, there is no line between being president and being a candidate. this election will be determined by whether voters think biden
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opened mark s office door, stood there with the door propped open and said something, mark s still sitting on his phone, i remember like glancing at him, and he s still sitting on his phone. and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters got into the capitol, we need to go down and see the president now, and mark looked up at him and said, he doesn t want to do anything, pat, and pat said something to the effect of and very clearly said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood s going to be on your effing hands, this is getting out of control. i m going down there, and at that point mark stood up there from his couch, both of his phones in his hand. he had his glasses on still. he walked out with pat. he put both of his phones on my desk and said let me know if jim calls, and they walked out and went down to the dining room.